You're talking to Serenity. And, Early... Serenity is very unhappy.

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Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

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Typo Boy - Feb 24, 2003 6:21:33 pm PST #5340 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

There are people who support the idea of seconds; they were posting earlier, but not now. I'm wondering if anyone who opposes having seconds on this ballot supports it in general?

But seconding is not stopping Buffista discusison in general. It avoids starting a particular formal process that requires labor on the part of buffistas when there is no chance of something passing.


Jesse - Feb 24, 2003 6:22:58 pm PST #5341 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I actually do think I support it in general. I don't support it on this ballot.


§ ita § - Feb 24, 2003 6:24:28 pm PST #5342 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If we don't discuss it on this ballot, what damage have we done?


Jon B. - Feb 24, 2003 6:27:11 pm PST #5343 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I'm wondering if anyone who opposes having seconds on this ballot supports it in general?

I'm not sure yet whether I support it in general. Don't support it on the ballot.


Jesse - Feb 24, 2003 6:27:32 pm PST #5344 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Mostly, I just want to start the time-limited discussions.


Hil R. - Feb 24, 2003 6:28:48 pm PST #5345 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I'm wondering if anyone who opposes having seconds on this ballot supports it in general?

Me. I think seconds are a good idea. I also think that this ballot is deciding things related to how we decide things, and that seconds belong in a discussion on how we propose things.


Typo Boy - Feb 24, 2003 6:52:31 pm PST #5346 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

All right. The "it should be on this ballot" is pretty much a minority of one. I'm not sorry I tried, but I won't take any more of your time on the issue.


Jon B. - Feb 24, 2003 6:55:26 pm PST #5347 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

And I'm not sorry you brought it up. That's what these discussions are for!


Rebecca Lizard - Feb 24, 2003 6:56:18 pm PST #5348 of 10001
You sip / say it's your crazy / straw say it's you're crazy / as you bicycle your soul / with beauty in your basket

I'm just moved to say that I've read two hundred posts and didn't understand any one of them, 'cause I'm still sick, but I trust and will adhere to whatever ends up getting done.

God, I never thought I'd hear myself say that.


brenda m - Feb 24, 2003 7:52:59 pm PST #5349 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I think the seconds conversation falls most naturally within the discussion of whether to open the discussion thread at all. So not yet.

At any rate, I'm having a hard time imagining a serious discussion request that wouldn't get at least a few nods of approval, so I'm not sure it's that big a deal anyway. If nothing else, there'll be people chiming in saying "I'm not interested, but if so-and-so wants to discuss it, we should."

My one problem with the quorum question is that without specifying a number it's hard to judge what the effect will be. A quorum of 15 is a very different thing than a quorum of 50.