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Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Cindy - Feb 24, 2003 8:00:53 am PST #5019 of 10001
Nobody

In short, what Sophia said.

t two cents

We should first discuss (with a goal of deciding on) only our decision making procedures and process. I think this discussion should involve both determing our ideal decision making process, and if need be, what we'll use as a work-around if there are tech. or other resources needed (but not immediately available) to put our procedures in place.

I think only when that is done should we then discuss the actual issues we have. Once we get to issues, the first issue to be addressed should be which current board practices and events are making the board go wonky and how can we help (e.g. archiving old threads, threadsucking, searching, refreshing pages, thread combination, huge influxes of posters at once).

I only think ENUF, whuffie [editorial and object lesson: which I hate - see and that's why issues should be put aside until after we know how to make decisions and implement them) , registration wait periods, Supreme Court thread, and what our community's purpose is, etc., should come last, and only if people are interested in resuming the discussion. It may be we just needed to brain storm and lose this place for a day to realize that it's internet Nirvana. t /two cents


Jesse - Feb 24, 2003 8:03:37 am PST #5020 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Oh yeah, and we do have to decide how we'll agree on what's to be voted on yes/no.


Jesse - Feb 24, 2003 8:04:06 am PST #5021 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Also, What Cindy Said.


Cindy - Feb 24, 2003 8:04:38 am PST #5022 of 10001
Nobody

Oh, I was "what Sophia said"ing her earlier post, but also like the one at 10:00:33am. I also like Jesse's voting procedure. When we have issues, we can give them a number and a short (one word if possible) name. Post the issue in Press and tell people to put vote in subject line and confirmation in the text of the email. That way it'll be easy to tally, but there will also be proof of how someone intended to vote, if that someone thinks they botched their vote.


Jessica - Feb 24, 2003 8:07:27 am PST #5023 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I love Allyson's Supreme Court thread proposal.

I think votes@buffistas.org is a good idea too, but someone needs to volunteer to count the votes.


Lyra Jane - Feb 24, 2003 8:07:34 am PST #5024 of 10001
Up with the sun

I love the idea of email voting. Tallying will suck, but if the vote is in thesubject line, it gets easier.

I do wonder if requiring emails might limit voting to people who have stronger opinions -- it seems slightly more cumbersome to address and type an email than it is to check your choice on a poll. But I think a trial run would probably let us see if that's the case, and an automated email form like the one at [link] would also alleviate that problem.


Jesse - Feb 24, 2003 8:08:23 am PST #5025 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I think votes@buffistas.org is a good idea too, but someone needs to volunteer to count the votes.

I did. It's just that there might be a day or two lag between voting and counting sometimes.


Nilly - Feb 24, 2003 8:09:16 am PST #5026 of 10001
Swouncing

someone needs to volunteer to count the votes.

Still not caught up, but I'd love to be able to help with that.

The fact that my timezone and weekend-schedule are different than the majority may be either helpful or damaging to this, I'm not sure which. [Edit: x-post with Jesse, whose offer it is]


Sophia Brooks - Feb 24, 2003 8:09:36 am PST #5027 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Oh yeah, and we do have to decide how we'll agree on what's to be voted on yes/no.

Oh-- yes/no votes are the best.

I was thinking that we should maybe do a modified Robert's Rules?

If there is enough (how do we define enough) discussion of something in Bureacracy, we can create a thread for it in "So Mote it Be". Then we can discuss. When it time for discussion is over, we would have to post the actual question to be voted on. I think we can be flexible and not have it be EXACTLY the same as the question we started with.

For example:

I could propose that we start talking about non-whitefonted spoilers in Buffy and Angel.

Some people support me.

We start talking about it and through the course of discussion, agree that this is silly, but we would like to be able to cross-pollinate between Buffy and Angel threads for things we have already aired.

So the vote might be: White-font stuff from the other show in the opposite thread for 1 week.

Which isn't the original question, but is something that came up.


DXMachina - Feb 24, 2003 8:10:08 am PST #5028 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

I do wonder if requiring emails might limit voting to people who have stronger opinions -- it seems slightly more cumbersome to address and type an email than it is to check your choice on a poll. But I think a trial run would probably let us see if that's the case, and an automated email form like the one at [link] would also alleviate that problem.

You could include two e-mail links in the proposal, one for yay, and one for nay, and set up the links so they automatically fill in the subject line. All you have to do then is click on the proper link and hit send.