I'm not against a short delay.

What I am against is an unreasonable delay. It's frustrating, because I'm not sure how much I can say without fear of spoiling people, because if I say I think it will be an issue (SPECULATION BASED ON EPISODES ONLY) which I think it will, because we've had mentions of Angel on Buffy, Buffy on Angel, and Faith on both, plus something that may or may not foreshadow more crossovers, according to show thread people. (NO MORE SPECULATION), it may seem like I'm being spoilery, when I'm only basing it on what has aired.

The type of behavior I'd prefer seeing modified over the whole use of spoiler font is the taunting. For example, while at ita's I got see tomorrow's Buffy and with bittorrent, apparently many Buffistas are watching earlier. More power to you all and I'm happy for you. I could taunt those who haven't seen it, but what's the point? Does it make me cooler for having seen it before some of you? Does it make it a better viewing experience? No to all of those questions.

But I'm just, to borrow Plei's word, cheesed by the need to read, "Ohhhh! I just watched it for the 19th time! You all are going to love it. It's so cool!"

To me, that's so much more irritating than having to whitefont.

edited to clarify.

Well, excited talk of the "you will love this!" doesn't bother me, nor did the Unamerican violence warnings for Betsy back when they were neccessary, but taunting for taunting's sake (Ha ha, I saw it and you didn't) is kind of a drag. I realize I do this excited talking myself--if I caption a show which I think is good, I like to to give advance warning because it maight help people make a choice to watch who are wavering.

At the same time, a lot of people who are spoiled feel the need to regulate themselves to the spoiler thread. Personally, I like have discussions with the spoiled people, because you're free to speculate out the ass. But at the same time, it's really annoying to have to intensely censor yourself in one thread or another. I mean, there's spoiler fonting, and then there's excessive spoiler fonting. You can only worry about people for so long, you know? Like, I appreciate the people who are on tape delay. I'm on tape delay myself. But I think a two-episode rule isn't unreasonable.

A two-episode rule sounds good to me. This late in the season, it seems a bit much to still be whitefonting stuff from September.

I am so with Kat on the taunting. I find it *highly* annoying. Hell, I found it mildly annoying when it was just for 3 hours. Now it spans several days.

I'd back a whitefont until the weekend rule.

Except, of course, pointed personal taunting about, like, life and stuff, because that is the Buffista WAY!!!! But show taunting? A waste of electrons.

It seems to me these discussions should be possible to conduct in Natter, and if they aren't, it just proves that a thread would be a bad idea.

I agree with Knut. I've had to change how I feel about Natter, but I have. And I think that it's the appropriate place for discussion about the war. And, if folks are civil, politics too. Because...we really did once upon a time have the most civil and thoughtful discussions about the most difficult subjects ever in the history of the entire internet.

Regarding Buffy and Angel boards. Used to be, way back when, you just didn't go into the boards if you hadn't caught up. Also, before the shows were on different networks and they ran back to back, so very few people saw one without the other.

It was better when you could talk about both shows.

There has been some very lovely analysis going on in Spoilers because you can talk about both shows there. Analysis that would have enhanced the regular show boards (without any spoilage). Also [white fonting] the shows are crossing over. It's inevitable.

I'd opt for the reasonable delay. I think that's fair.

Yeah--post 9-11, being able to sort through things in Natter, with intense discussions intermixed with regular life natter, really felt right to me, and was personally helpful. Having the responses to that incident in their own thread probably would have kept me (or some folk) away, and I benefitted from sharing everyone's views. I think the same would be true if/when we go to war.