I thought the last time this came up (January 9th according to my Nilly which says to look here: P.M. Marcontell "Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier" Jan 9, 2003 5:46:13 pm EST) that the consensus seemed to be that we need to bring it back up if it's a problem. It's a problem for PMM and possibly for Jeff. Is it a problem for anyone else?

Edited to get the correct date.

voting with Plei

See, I remember discussing both shows, and not whitefonting either. There were times in NAFDA threads where things were spoilerfonted when we knew there'd be huge delays, but not a whole season thing like we've got going on now. I mean, the people in OZ can discuss things that we're still white fonting in show threads. That's just stupid.

There's no reason to be whitefonting the first evil in the Angel thread; that's excessive. I'd be fine with limiting it to two eps out.

But it's important to me not to be spoiled, far more important than discussing the two shows in tandem.

I'd like to see Natter 9, Natter 9, Natter 9

I'm not against a short delay.

What I am against is an unreasonable delay. It's frustrating, because I'm not sure how much I can say without fear of spoiling people, because if I say I think it will be an issue (SPECULATION BASED ON EPISODES ONLY) which I think it will, because we've had mentions of Angel on Buffy, Buffy on Angel, and Faith on both, plus something that may or may not foreshadow more crossovers, according to show thread people. (NO MORE SPECULATION), it may seem like I'm being spoilery, when I'm only basing it on what has aired.

The type of behavior I'd prefer seeing modified over the whole use of spoiler font is the taunting. For example, while at ita's I got see tomorrow's Buffy and with bittorrent, apparently many Buffistas are watching earlier. More power to you all and I'm happy for you. I could taunt those who haven't seen it, but what's the point? Does it make me cooler for having seen it before some of you? Does it make it a better viewing experience? No to all of those questions.

But I'm just, to borrow Plei's word, cheesed by the need to read, "Ohhhh! I just watched it for the 19th time! You all are going to love it. It's so cool!"

To me, that's so much more irritating than having to whitefont.

edited to clarify.

Well, excited talk of the "you will love this!" doesn't bother me, nor did the Unamerican violence warnings for Betsy back when they were neccessary, but taunting for taunting's sake (Ha ha, I saw it and you didn't) is kind of a drag. I realize I do this excited talking myself--if I caption a show which I think is good, I like to to give advance warning because it maight help people make a choice to watch who are wavering.

At the same time, a lot of people who are spoiled feel the need to regulate themselves to the spoiler thread. Personally, I like have discussions with the spoiled people, because you're free to speculate out the ass. But at the same time, it's really annoying to have to intensely censor yourself in one thread or another. I mean, there's spoiler fonting, and then there's excessive spoiler fonting. You can only worry about people for so long, you know? Like, I appreciate the people who are on tape delay. I'm on tape delay myself. But I think a two-episode rule isn't unreasonable.

A two-episode rule sounds good to me. This late in the season, it seems a bit much to still be whitefonting stuff from September.

I am so with Kat on the taunting. I find it *highly* annoying. Hell, I found it mildly annoying when it was just for 3 hours. Now it spans several days.