Saffron: You won't tell anyone about me breaking down? Mal: I won't. Saffron: Then I won't tell anyone how easily I got your gun out of your holster. Mal: I'll take that as a kindness.

'Trash'


Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Liese S. - Feb 17, 2003 8:19:37 pm PST #4565 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

I gotta think about this, but I think I'd prefer not to do a mailing list. If we do it, I'll subscribe, but...

I'll be more articulate later.


Jessica - Feb 17, 2003 8:22:23 pm PST #4566 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

What Liese said, re mailing list.

I can't explain why the idea squicks me so, but it does.


jengod - Feb 17, 2003 9:10:58 pm PST #4567 of 10001

I am one of the people who opposes a war thread even though I don't think I would visit it if we end up with one, but there is no cause and effect there. I don't read the Due South, Smallville, or spoilers threads, but I am not opposed to them the way I am to a war thread, which I just think is a bad idea.

Wrod.

And, if I may be so bold as to say, I think the people don't want the mailing list is because they feel their opinions will be ghettoized and one of the main motivations behind the potential war thread, is, frankly, to yell at each other in public, and to holler at Bush and Saddam and Osama and potentially strike a blow against them. Which is fine. It's the American way. But I don't like the yelling. Loud noises frighten me. Which is why I'm against the thread.

Never discuss politics or religion in the presence of guests!


Jessica - Feb 17, 2003 9:24:44 pm PST #4568 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I think the people don't want the mailing list is because they feel their opinions will be ghettoized

Nope.

and one of the main motivations behind the potential war thread, is, frankly, to yell at each other in public

And nope.

The initial impulse behind the war thread (as I understand it) was to provide a space for people to be terrified and huddle together for comfort. It was to be an explicitly no-yelling thread, even moreso than the rest of the board.

The mailing list idea feels icky and backchannely to me -- it has nothing to do with my voice being heard or not, it just...leaves a bad taste in my mouth. If that is the ultimate consensus, I'd join it and not complain, but right now, it doesn't feel right. Unfortunately, I think a dedicated war thread is unfeasible because if we can attract Dark Angel fans with a Firefly thread, we can attract nasty propaganda with a war thread, and it would be many many times worse and harder to get rid of. That also said, I would subscribe to a war thread if one were created.

Ideally, I'd like people to feel comfortable bringing up current events in Natter. We're still capable of sustained conversations in there if we want them.


Burrell - Feb 17, 2003 9:42:18 pm PST #4569 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Ideally, I'd like people to feel comfortable bringing up current events in Natter. We're still capable of sustained conversations in there if we want them.

Agreed.


§ ita § - Feb 17, 2003 9:59:36 pm PST #4570 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Sustained conversations happen there all the time. At least, I'm assuming so, since there's stuff I manage to talk about forever, plus exchanges on topics I skip.

Also "I like chocolate too." Which I do, so perhaps I'm biased there.


Hil R. - Feb 17, 2003 10:00:59 pm PST #4571 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Yeah, we sustained a knife and fork conversation for about three days. I'd say that a war discussion would be sustained if there were people who wanted to talk about it.


§ ita § - Feb 17, 2003 10:01:44 pm PST #4572 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

we sustained a knife and fork conversation for about three days.

Yeah, sorry about that.

Wait, no, I'm not.


Lee - Feb 17, 2003 10:09:42 pm PST #4573 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

and you shouldn't be- knives and forks (and chocolate) are very important.


jengod - Feb 17, 2003 10:17:30 pm PST #4574 of 10001

In other thread news... can someone explain the Natter 9...Natter 9 joke to me? I have no objections to it, but I'm confu-zed. And we might need a ninth Natter soon.