But that's just my point! You she obeys! She obeys you! There's obeying going on right under my nose!

Wash ,'War Stories'


Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Jessica - Feb 17, 2003 9:24:44 pm PST #4568 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I think the people don't want the mailing list is because they feel their opinions will be ghettoized

Nope.

and one of the main motivations behind the potential war thread, is, frankly, to yell at each other in public

And nope.

The initial impulse behind the war thread (as I understand it) was to provide a space for people to be terrified and huddle together for comfort. It was to be an explicitly no-yelling thread, even moreso than the rest of the board.

The mailing list idea feels icky and backchannely to me -- it has nothing to do with my voice being heard or not, it just...leaves a bad taste in my mouth. If that is the ultimate consensus, I'd join it and not complain, but right now, it doesn't feel right. Unfortunately, I think a dedicated war thread is unfeasible because if we can attract Dark Angel fans with a Firefly thread, we can attract nasty propaganda with a war thread, and it would be many many times worse and harder to get rid of. That also said, I would subscribe to a war thread if one were created.

Ideally, I'd like people to feel comfortable bringing up current events in Natter. We're still capable of sustained conversations in there if we want them.


Burrell - Feb 17, 2003 9:42:18 pm PST #4569 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Ideally, I'd like people to feel comfortable bringing up current events in Natter. We're still capable of sustained conversations in there if we want them.

Agreed.


§ ita § - Feb 17, 2003 9:59:36 pm PST #4570 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Sustained conversations happen there all the time. At least, I'm assuming so, since there's stuff I manage to talk about forever, plus exchanges on topics I skip.

Also "I like chocolate too." Which I do, so perhaps I'm biased there.


Hil R. - Feb 17, 2003 10:00:59 pm PST #4571 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Yeah, we sustained a knife and fork conversation for about three days. I'd say that a war discussion would be sustained if there were people who wanted to talk about it.


§ ita § - Feb 17, 2003 10:01:44 pm PST #4572 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

we sustained a knife and fork conversation for about three days.

Yeah, sorry about that.

Wait, no, I'm not.


Lee - Feb 17, 2003 10:09:42 pm PST #4573 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

and you shouldn't be- knives and forks (and chocolate) are very important.


jengod - Feb 17, 2003 10:17:30 pm PST #4574 of 10001

In other thread news... can someone explain the Natter 9...Natter 9 joke to me? I have no objections to it, but I'm confu-zed. And we might need a ninth Natter soon.


Jeff Mejia - Feb 17, 2003 10:22:28 pm PST #4575 of 10001
"Don't think of yourself as an organic pain collector racing towards oblivion." Dogbert to Dilbert

Putting the war thread conversation aside for a second, I suspect that we may want to re-think the spoiler policy re: current seasons of Angel and Buffy in the opposing threads. With the promo from last Wednesday's Angel (all of five seconds which I haven't posted yet),[this is hard to do in a non-NAFDA thread - S7 spoils follow] crossovers in the storyline are inevitable, at least in speculation. I don't see how we will be able to have good, free-wheeling discussion without constantly tripping over the need to point out possible spoilers for the other shows.

In short, I think we need to go back to the old way of having the Buffy and Angel threads concurrent, so that we can reference what was seen in one show in the other thread without worries.


Kat - Feb 17, 2003 10:23:08 pm PST #4576 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Up aways someone said they didn't understand the whole building to capacity with new threads arguement. I guess my take on it, with absolutley no information so I could be talking out my ass, is that we have limited bandwidth and an unknown capacity of how much the code can hold. If we continue to build new threads, people will continue to post like mad bunnies and it won't ease posting in other places. So there's a net gain in posting with an increasing worry about what the board can take technically.

Or I'm talking out my ass.


Hil R. - Feb 17, 2003 10:25:49 pm PST #4577 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I suggest, if we are going to allow posting about one show in the other thread (I can see the arguments for either side), that we wait until the end of the week for each one, so that people who get the shows on different nights can catch up. So, no talking about that week's Buffy in the Angel thread until Sunday, and vice versa.