Sometimes when I'm sitting in class... You know, I'm not thinking about class, 'cause that would never happen. I think about kissing you. And it's like everything stops. It's like, it's like freeze frame. Willow kissage.

Oz ,'First Date'


Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


meara - Oct 06, 2002 3:08:01 pm PDT #369 of 10001

Heh. See, the only reason I can keep up in natter (long as I have to make my catchups because of the number of posts I read at a time) is because I tend to NOT keep up in the show threads...


Typo Boy - Oct 06, 2002 3:09:06 pm PDT #370 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

It is a shame there is no way to do an automated Natter abstract. But if ita or Jon had an AI algorithm that good, they would be selling it for large amounts of money. As it is, we need a volunteer with lots of spare time.


Holli - Oct 06, 2002 3:11:49 pm PDT #371 of 10001
an overblown libretto and a sumptuous score/ could never contain the contradictions I adore

Didn't we talk about dividing Natter up into blocks of time? One person recaps Natter from noon to 3 on Wednesdays, another has it from seven to ten on Fridays, and so on.


Burrell - Oct 06, 2002 3:14:01 pm PDT #372 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Natter recaps would be too dang labor intensive, wouldn't they?


§ ita § - Oct 06, 2002 3:15:39 pm PDT #373 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Natter recaps would be too dang labor intensive, wouldn't they?

Also, I don't want to be recapped. I'm not comfortable with the idea, myself.


Burrell - Oct 06, 2002 3:17:32 pm PDT #374 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Maybe it's just me, but I think that COMM catches most of the highlights. And frankly, if you disagree, it just means you need to post more highlights there yourself!


Sue - Oct 06, 2002 3:45:10 pm PDT #375 of 10001
hip deep in pie

I agree with Burrell. Though I hate to skip and skim, I find it's a neccessity at times. Between Beep Me, COMM, and the Press thread, I find you don't miss the important personal news, and the really funny bits. If you walked into a party late, you wouldn't make your friends recap everything that passed, you'd just get them to hit the highlights, and we have that. I think you either have to committ to catching up, or make peace with the fact that you're skipping.


Typo Boy - Oct 06, 2002 4:02:27 pm PDT #376 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I think you are right. Press, Beep Me, Comm and the last 50 posts in natter give a pretty good catchup.


Jesse - Oct 06, 2002 4:06:16 pm PDT #377 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Other thoughts about the FAQ/How-To document:

"How do you do fake HTML?" is rapidly becoming a FAQ, so I think the t quick-edit should be added to that section. But then I think that the rest of the html-y stuff could come out of the FAQ, since it's all in the How-To. I'd also like the How-To include everything that's allowed, not just a sample -- it's a relatively short list, right?

So, here's what I'm thinking to go into the FAQ:

Every time I try to use fake HTML, it disappears! What can I do?
We have only allowed certain HTML tags to be used in posts here, so anything else between carats gets stripped out. For fake HTML tags, use our awesome Quick Edit code: start a new line with "t," then what you want between carats, like this:

. t /obsessive [uh, someone can do the thing so that works as a demo without the period, right?]

becomes this:

t /obsessive

Not that we ever turn off the obsessive tag.

The complete list of what's allowed is here.

(Edited to add that Sheryl's post was what got me started thinking about this anyway, so pretty links should definitely be in the how-to, also. I'm seeing the how-to as incorporating all the technical ins and outs.)


Jesse - Oct 06, 2002 4:21:04 pm PDT #378 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

OK, here's my other FAQ addition suggestion (yes, I'm desperately avoiding getting off the couch):

Y'all talk a lot! I love it, but I can't keep up! Should I quit my job?

We do not recommend quitting your job in order to catch up with the Buffistas, although we understand the impulse -- threads here move really fast, and after even one day away, you will be faced with hundreds of new messages. So, what can be done? Lots.

If you want to read the discussion of a current episode, but just don't have time to read every message that came before it, Nillytown has links to the beginning of each episode's discussion.

If you just can't keep up in Natter, may we recommend the John H Natter Diet? It entails reading (1) the Beep Me thread for big personal news, (2) the Sunnydale Press thread for big community news, (3) Coffee on My Monitor for conversation highlights, and (4) the last 50 posts in Natter.

If you do find yourself catching up on hundreds of messages at a time, you will find that you have many responses to various posts. In that case, you may want to do a meara. This is not the same as doing meara. The verb "to meara" was coined by Fred Pete, and formally defined by DavidS:

To meara: To do a long catchup post in Natter interspersed with quotes.

Use Notepad, or the program of your choice, to copy and paste the stuff to which you want to reply.