Betrayal? Because he's making an effort to fit into a community after, as you allege, being stupid in public?

I agree, I don't see it as a betrayal. If they're the same person, he's making a choice I would not make in terms of posting where he shouldn't, but he's also contributing to the community. Which is the goal we were trying to reach with the banning, anyhow.

your response if he insists on being innocent, as anyone in this country has the right to do?

That was my exact question earlier on. What should we do?

Three people have now asked him directly if he's mieskie.

He's been reminded twice by me that the question has been asked here and he's made no response.

Also, "in this country", connie? Which country?

Because he's making an effort to fit into a community after, as you allege, being stupid in public?

The banning rule says "go away for two months, then come back and everything will be fine".

John, you're walking a thin line, here. You're harassing this person. He's done nothing wrong.

Sorry for assuming Americanism, my fault.

If someone insists that they're innocent and there is no substantive evidence to the contrary, we must publically assume he's innocent. If we persist in saying "We don't believe you," we are in the position of having to prove our statement or risk slander. Or merely stubbornness.

For the sake of argument, let's say that they are the same person and that this person is doing this to get back at us for the banning.

Well, you're handing him the community on a silver platter and telling him to use it as a frisbee. This is rapidly turning into a witch hunt. It's going to get ugly. There will be considerable fallout. And the Buffistas won't be the same place when it's done.

So, yes, by all means, give him that power.

I hate that idea so much that it will be really hard for me to behave normally around him in threads.

This doesn't sound like a community issue to me. It sounds like a personal between the two of you, and since you're already emailing him about it, maybe that's where it should be dealt with.

Because I'm more than ready to move on, and I know I'm not alone in that.

What Kristen said. She even used the word "witchhunt", which was in my brain from the beginning.

The way I see it, the point of community standards is to guarantee peace. Well, here I'm seeing peace being disturbed by an attempt to enforce community standards. (And BTW, asking how to enforce a ban from this board is a good question, but I think that it should have been asked at the beginning, when those rules were being drawn by you guys. The way the Internet currently works, I'm afraid there's no easy way to do it).

And that's all I have to say. Can we rest now, Buffistas? Can we rest?

(Answer quickly, because this cross is burning like a bitch).

I'm seeing peace being disturbed by an attempt to enforce community standards.

Thank you, Paul, for putting this so well.

ohn, you're walking a thin line, here. You're harassing this person. He's done nothing wrong.

For the sake of argument, let's say that they are the same person and that this person is doing this to get back at us for the banning.

Well, you're handing him the community on a silver platter and telling him to use it as a frisbee. This is rapidly turning into a witch hunt. It's going to get ugly. There will be considerable fallout. And the Buffistas won't be the same place when it's done.

I think Allyson and Kristen are really REALLY right here.