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Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Anne W. - Jan 27, 2003 11:51:23 am PST #3600 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

I'm another one who likes the idea that a significant majority should approve the new thread.


Wolfram - Jan 27, 2003 11:51:47 am PST #3601 of 10001
Visilurking

Desired thread is proposed in Bureaucracy, open for discussion for 12 hours.

I suggest none of this take place over a weekend or holiday. I also suggest some method of closing threads if they fall into disuse (or nearly so). And can we discuss an archive link to clean up all the threads on the homepage?


Kat - Jan 27, 2003 11:53:56 am PST #3602 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

I think voting is more useful. But I also think that voting off site is not the best solution because it requires people to click and go and to me, that's a huge impediment (especially since my worksite filters out the most popular polling places and I don't have access to even vote).

Also, I totally agree with Jessica upthread. If the conversation isn't to your liking, then do something about it. I have invisible days too. But I'm not sure a sustained deep discussion thread is the answer. Just because I want to have a deep discussion on politics or my latest car problem or whatever doesn't mean anyone else does.

I think one of the big conflicts is that for some people, this is the only board they participate in. Naturally life is bigger than just ME shows, so we've grown and expanded to other topics to accomodate. But for some of us, we have lots of places and ways of interacting that aren't confined to here. I don't really need a TV show thread, because I also read at WX and at utne where I do have conversations of things like Gilmore Girls or The Mole. If I'm having issues where I need advice or to vent, I'm perfectly allright with e-mail or AIM. The board, for me, doesn't have to meet all my needs. But obviously for others it's not the same.

Moreover, I'm also fine with this conversation being here. If it doesn't belong here, where does it belong? Or should we not have the conversation at all?


Connie Neil - Jan 27, 2003 11:54:40 am PST #3603 of 10001
brillig

still lower-case. still proud.

IJS.


Lyra Jane - Jan 27, 2003 11:55:30 am PST #3604 of 10001
Up with the sun

I suggest none of this take place over a weekend or holiday. I also suggest some method of closing threads if they fall into disuse (or nearly so). And can we discuss an archive link to clean up all the threads on the homepage?

Seconded, except for the closing-threads part. I mean, maybe if a thread has not gotten a single post in 6 mos., but even then it should be available in the archive for restarting.

I still think 70% is too high a goal. 60%, maybe. Or we could do it by numbers -- if someone could figure out the # of active posters it takes to keep a thread alive (my gut is about 25, but I admit I don't really know), that number of people would have to vote that they would be very likely to participate in such a thread if it were started.

Edited: I like off-site poll voting because it doesn't clutter bureaucracy. But what if we did polls as sidebars, like on TWoP? That would probably up participation, anyhow.


shrift - Jan 27, 2003 11:56:10 am PST #3605 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

I've gone dim in a lot of threads because I'm on a tape delay for... oh, everything. Including Smallville.

But I like having them all neat and separate, waiting for me to catch up on them.

Of course, considering that I may have to go very, very dim here due to looming insanity, I suppose my opinion doesn't much matter.


Jessica - Jan 27, 2003 11:56:41 am PST #3606 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I'm not keen on the idea of setting a time limit on any discussion, but if that's what a lot of people want, I think it needs to be longer than 12 hours in order to allow everyone to participate. We can't depend on the Australians all having insommnia at once.


Lyra Jane - Jan 27, 2003 11:59:27 am PST #3607 of 10001
Up with the sun

It started with 24. I edited to 12 to shorten the process, but 48 or 60 would work for me, too. The basic idea is just creating clear standards for when a thread is started, because the current process seems clumsy and arbitrary to me.


Laura - Jan 27, 2003 11:59:47 am PST #3608 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

For the record, shrift's opinion matters. Sorry about the insanity, welcome to the club.


Jesse - Jan 27, 2003 12:00:36 pm PST #3609 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I'm another one who likes the idea that a significant majority should approve the new thread.

Majority of what, though? Surely not registered Buffistas. People who vote? Then I'd say we should have a couple of days of voting, anyway.