Everything looks good from here... Yes. Yes, this is a fertile land, and we will thrive. We will rule over all this land, and we will call it... 'This Land.' I think we should call it 'your grave!' Ah, curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal! Ha ha HA! Mine is an evil laugh! Now die! Oh, no, God! Oh, dear God in heaven!

Wash ,'Serenity'


Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Lyra Jane - Jan 27, 2003 11:55:30 am PST #3604 of 10001
Up with the sun

I suggest none of this take place over a weekend or holiday. I also suggest some method of closing threads if they fall into disuse (or nearly so). And can we discuss an archive link to clean up all the threads on the homepage?

Seconded, except for the closing-threads part. I mean, maybe if a thread has not gotten a single post in 6 mos., but even then it should be available in the archive for restarting.

I still think 70% is too high a goal. 60%, maybe. Or we could do it by numbers -- if someone could figure out the # of active posters it takes to keep a thread alive (my gut is about 25, but I admit I don't really know), that number of people would have to vote that they would be very likely to participate in such a thread if it were started.

Edited: I like off-site poll voting because it doesn't clutter bureaucracy. But what if we did polls as sidebars, like on TWoP? That would probably up participation, anyhow.


shrift - Jan 27, 2003 11:56:10 am PST #3605 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

I've gone dim in a lot of threads because I'm on a tape delay for... oh, everything. Including Smallville.

But I like having them all neat and separate, waiting for me to catch up on them.

Of course, considering that I may have to go very, very dim here due to looming insanity, I suppose my opinion doesn't much matter.


Jessica - Jan 27, 2003 11:56:41 am PST #3606 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I'm not keen on the idea of setting a time limit on any discussion, but if that's what a lot of people want, I think it needs to be longer than 12 hours in order to allow everyone to participate. We can't depend on the Australians all having insommnia at once.


Lyra Jane - Jan 27, 2003 11:59:27 am PST #3607 of 10001
Up with the sun

It started with 24. I edited to 12 to shorten the process, but 48 or 60 would work for me, too. The basic idea is just creating clear standards for when a thread is started, because the current process seems clumsy and arbitrary to me.


Laura - Jan 27, 2003 11:59:47 am PST #3608 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

For the record, shrift's opinion matters. Sorry about the insanity, welcome to the club.


Jesse - Jan 27, 2003 12:00:36 pm PST #3609 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I'm another one who likes the idea that a significant majority should approve the new thread.

Majority of what, though? Surely not registered Buffistas. People who vote? Then I'd say we should have a couple of days of voting, anyway.


Susan W. - Jan 27, 2003 12:01:13 pm PST #3610 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

The board, for me, doesn't have to meet all my needs. But obviously for others it's not the same.

This is definitely an issue for me. Before TT went pay, I spent maybe 75% of my time on MWT and 25% on the Buffy threads. Afterward, I never felt completely at home in any of the MWT successor boards, so I ended up spending about 90% of my time over here.


Sophia Brooks - Jan 27, 2003 12:04:28 pm PST #3611 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I'm with Susan-- although I used to post in WX TV. Part of it, I'm sure, just is growing pains and things are different now.

I think we should consider adding new threads for other things maybe when/if a significant part of the ME stable is off the air?


Kat - Jan 27, 2003 12:12:50 pm PST #3612 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Ah, see this is interesting. If this is the only place where you read and post, then your experience will be significantly different. The question to me doesn't seem to be new thread or not, but what we want buffistas.org to be in terms of a community?

And perhaps this is the crux of most of the recent discussions.

But as it pertains to thread proliferation, do we want buffistas.org to be a TT replication or not? Could we even sustain it if we were?

edited because of the damn homonym issue.


Lyra Jane - Jan 27, 2003 12:13:12 pm PST #3613 of 10001
Up with the sun

I think we should consider adding new threads for other things maybe when/if a significant part of the ME stable is off the air?

Do you mean not add anything else until then, or consider broader diversion at that time?

Jesse, consider 12 and 24 starting points -- they were just numbers I thought of. Anything shy of 120 total is fine by me.