I don't know Aimee, I like the presents part.
Giles: I jump out of the circle, jump back in, and, and, shake my gourd. Buffy: Hey, I think I know this ritual. The ancient shamans were next called upon to do the Hokey-Pokey and to turn themselves around.
'Dirty Girls'
Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier
A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.
Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych
Deena - Jan 02, 2003 8:42:20 pm PST #2358 of 10001
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara
DXMachina - Jan 02, 2003 8:42:20 pm PST #2359 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.
So, do we have a title yet?
Musical Buffistas 1: "And the music (and who can blame it) swells..."
Aims - Jan 02, 2003 8:43:58 pm PST #2360 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.
I don't know Aimee, I like the presents part.
Me, too. I was hinting.
DavidS - Jan 02, 2003 8:44:13 pm PST #2361 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Musical Buffistas 1: "And the music (and who can blame it) swells..."
Hmmm, it might "as the music..."
Somebody should check before we commit this to HTML. Anybody got the script handy?
Michele T. - Jan 02, 2003 8:49:06 pm PST #2362 of 10001
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi
My heart is still with "Give me something to sing about" for the thread title.
billytea - Jan 02, 2003 8:56:50 pm PST #2363 of 10001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.
Ok, bearing in mind this discussion's winding down, I've trimmed this post a bit. Bottom line is, well, on the bottom line: do we have a possible consensus?
I don't think that handholding people through normal social interaction should be a requirement to any process.
Agreed. I don't think I'm proposing hand-holding in any way. They're still responsible for their actions, no one's going to make their defence for them, if they don't want to speak up during the process that's their look-out. (And, I think Cindy's suggestion that an official warning should flag Bureaucracy as the thread to watch on such matters is a good one; this would leave the onus firmly on the poster to watch the thread, but not leave anyone disadvantaged through ignorance.)
Nor do I think that this equates to any change in our policy. All that's involved is adding a bit of relevant info at the end of the already mandated warning. At issue is IMO whether we're to be seen as having an open and transparent procedure, or if it penalises newbies who don't yet know the layout of the Phoenix board.
But I think Cindy's suggestion adequately addresses that, a few other people have said they're comfortable with it and I don't know if anyone's yet objected to it; so, does anyone have an objection to official warnings mentioning the Bureaucracy thread? Do we have a consensus?
billytea - Jan 02, 2003 8:57:31 pm PST #2364 of 10001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.
(Oh; and "Give me something to sing about" looks like a good thread title to me. I'll vote for it.)
John H - Jan 02, 2003 8:59:06 pm PST #2365 of 10001
I think "give me something to sing about" is the point where Buffy is saying she doesn't care about music, so it's kind of antithetical? Is that what I mean? "Don't give me songs, give me something to sing about". So I like the other one better.
brenda m - Jan 02, 2003 9:00:39 pm PST #2366 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
I liked Cindy's wording, in particular, because it didn't say "Come here and argue the point," but did point the way to where such discussion could be going on. I'd be fine with adding that to the message sent, but I don't think any other changes should be made at this stage.
Jon B. - Jan 02, 2003 9:04:49 pm PST #2367 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
I've already added a mention of the Bureaucracy thread (using Allyson's suggested wording) to the non-filky etiquette page.