A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.
Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych
I'm with Allyson on this - every post you make on this board is an opportunity to mount a defense, and especially so after you've received an official warning.
Yes, but would we rather such defence was happening on an administrative thread or a show or natter thread?
Allyson, as I read it, was saying 'no appeals'. Or maybe 'no lube'. I'm pretty comfortable with that. (Er, the former.)
The procedure Hec outlined sounds good to me. Discussion of actual suspension, IMO, should be conducted with the knowledge of the person in question. If they behave like a prat during such discussion, well, at least it's going to be a quick one.
The procedure Hec outlined sounds good to me. Discussion of actual suspension, IMO, should be conducted with the knowledge of the person in question. If they behave like a prat during such discussion, well, at least it's going to be a quick one.
And I agree with Billy agreeing with Hec.
The amazing and wonderful thing about the whole m. situation was that it was completely public. The concerns, objections, and hints posted by peers were in the Firefly thread. The official warning was in the thread. The rules are in the FAQ. This thread is open. Discussion about the situation occurred before, (during, I think) and after. At no time was m. barred from the discussion. True, he didn't think to explore bureaucracy (and an email message to the offender indicating that suspension is under consideration is a great idea), but it was all here.
Because I both violated the "ignore" standard with my remark about MARCIE, and then cheered on a couple of wonderful men for also not "ignoring" it didn't feel right to participate in the discussion of the banning, or the aftermath.
However, I admired the consideration given to the question. The *fairness* of the entire proceeding was remarkable, including an open discussion with dissenters.
It was, though ugly on the surface, a thing of beauty in its resolution. I really love this place. Even if I did just try to register as James Cameron.
MARCIE
Can someone explain this to me? I feel like I missed a memo.
MARCIE is what we decided to call our ENUF filter, when we get around to having one. Because it turns people we want to ignore invisible.
Invisible user filter, roughly. ENUF, stop this person appearing on my screen, etc.
Edit: JessPMoon types faster than me.
MARCIE is what we decided to call our ENUF filter, when we get around to having one. Because it turns people we want to ignore invisible.
Ah.
Although, the idea of such a thing here makes me kinda sad.
In this particular instance, would inviting him over to this thread have even made a difference? Sure, he was all polite and dignified in his earlier posts here, but did he really say anything that would have changed anyone's mind about the suspension? What I took from his "defense" was that he didn't feel like he was responsible for anyone's negative reaction and that how we chose to react wasn't really his problem. The two alternatives he offered resultwise, were that he either would have grown bored of us and left, or that eventually it would have come to this anyway. Nowhere did I see him offer up that had he realized how seriously this all was being taken, that he would have tried to acclimate hinself better to the community by altering the tone of his posts. The fact that this whole discussion was even taking place to such a degree seemed to provide him great amusement, and he couldn't resist getting a final word in there, designed to make people feel guilty.
And as far as him not knowing this thread was here...hey, I found it. Noticed that there were an odd amount of new posts here, figured somebody was talking about something, and came on over to check it out.
And as far as him not knowing this thread was here...hey, I found it. Noticed that there were an odd amount of new posts here, figured somebody was talking about something, and came on over to check it out.
Bing. As someone else pointed out, it's in the right-hand column for a reason.
