I've seen honest faces before. They usually come attached to liars.

Willow ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


§ ita § - Jan 02, 2003 1:50:48 pm PST #2254 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Will we need to pay extra to make sure we don't basically popular ourselves out of a server?

It's a good point. It will probably hasten the point at which we have to buy more bandwidth, but I'm sure not by more than a few months.


Michele T. - Jan 02, 2003 1:57:20 pm PST #2255 of 10001
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi

Music but not movies would be OK by me; there seems more of a pro-music groundswell.


Am-Chau Yarkona - Jan 02, 2003 2:00:39 pm PST #2256 of 10001
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

Music but not movies is okay, because the main movies, LotR, have been covered already.


billytea - Jan 02, 2003 2:03:31 pm PST #2257 of 10001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

I'm with Allyson on this - every post you make on this board is an opportunity to mount a defense, and especially so after you've received an official warning.

Yes, but would we rather such defence was happening on an administrative thread or a show or natter thread?

Allyson, as I read it, was saying 'no appeals'. Or maybe 'no lube'. I'm pretty comfortable with that. (Er, the former.)

The procedure Hec outlined sounds good to me. Discussion of actual suspension, IMO, should be conducted with the knowledge of the person in question. If they behave like a prat during such discussion, well, at least it's going to be a quick one.


Shell - Jan 02, 2003 2:09:40 pm PST #2258 of 10001

The procedure Hec outlined sounds good to me. Discussion of actual suspension, IMO, should be conducted with the knowledge of the person in question. If they behave like a prat during such discussion, well, at least it's going to be a quick one.

And I agree with Billy agreeing with Hec.

The amazing and wonderful thing about the whole m. situation was that it was completely public. The concerns, objections, and hints posted by peers were in the Firefly thread. The official warning was in the thread. The rules are in the FAQ. This thread is open. Discussion about the situation occurred before, (during, I think) and after. At no time was m. barred from the discussion. True, he didn't think to explore bureaucracy (and an email message to the offender indicating that suspension is under consideration is a great idea), but it was all here.

Because I both violated the "ignore" standard with my remark about MARCIE, and then cheered on a couple of wonderful men for also not "ignoring" it didn't feel right to participate in the discussion of the banning, or the aftermath.

However, I admired the consideration given to the question. The *fairness* of the entire proceeding was remarkable, including an open discussion with dissenters.

It was, though ugly on the surface, a thing of beauty in its resolution. I really love this place. Even if I did just try to register as James Cameron.


David J. Schwartz - Jan 02, 2003 2:14:37 pm PST #2259 of 10001
New, fully poseable Author!Knut.

MARCIE

Can someone explain this to me? I feel like I missed a memo.


Fay - Jan 02, 2003 2:14:57 pm PST #2260 of 10001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

wrod


Jessica - Jan 02, 2003 2:15:27 pm PST #2261 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

MARCIE is what we decided to call our ENUF filter, when we get around to having one. Because it turns people we want to ignore invisible.


Am-Chau Yarkona - Jan 02, 2003 2:16:05 pm PST #2262 of 10001
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

Invisible user filter, roughly. ENUF, stop this person appearing on my screen, etc.

Edit: JessPMoon types faster than me.


David J. Schwartz - Jan 02, 2003 2:16:20 pm PST #2263 of 10001
New, fully poseable Author!Knut.

MARCIE is what we decided to call our ENUF filter, when we get around to having one. Because it turns people we want to ignore invisible.

Ah.

Although, the idea of such a thing here makes me kinda sad.