I don't fancy spending the next month trying to get librarian out of the carpet.

Spike ,'Chosen'


Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


justkim - Jan 02, 2003 10:07:22 am PST #2096 of 10001
Another social casualty...

I'd just like to mention, as someone who can't keep up with Natter, that I like the idea of smaller "category" threads. I can keep up with Literary amd TTT. I personally wouldn't read the music thread, but I would love to have a general Movies thread (not that I mean to start a debate on that topic). I waded briefly into Natter to see what the reactions, if any, were to Chicago and I found that a bit of a pain.

I like to know Buffista opinions on various topics, because I've come to trust them (though I don't always agree with them) as being well reasoned and expressed. I just wish it weren't always so much work.


askye - Jan 02, 2003 10:07:58 am PST #2097 of 10001
Thrive to spite them

I don't post often in Literary but I think it's a pretty good balance of all types of books.

Maybe we need to change the slug to indicate that isn't for Literature.

I am with Hec about a music thread, I've poked around the People's Forum music thread before, and they seem like nice people, but I'm not that into music and I can't follow most of what's being said.


§ ita § - Jan 02, 2003 10:08:48 am PST #2098 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Okay -- here's my selfish opinion. I find it hard to keep up with splinter thread. So I don't discuss Due South so much anymore, or Smallville, or even books. TTT -- well, it's an obsession. But things like music or movies which are more like interests?

Would then drop off my radar.


Am-Chau Yarkona - Jan 02, 2003 10:09:20 am PST #2099 of 10001
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

I think that it is much more sensible to have a movie thread, than to have a thread for one movie, as we've done with TTT (not that I'd don't like that, oh no, I love it). And in the context of calls for a movie thread, a music thread is very much more sensible.

I also appreciate the not keeping up with Natter issue.


katefate - Jan 02, 2003 10:09:55 am PST #2100 of 10001
Frail my heart apart and play me a little Shady Grove

If we had a music thread, I'd have an appropriate place to express my adoration of Hec for knowing who Ranch Romance are. I'd love a place to hang out with fater, in hopes that some of that coolness would rub off, even a little bit, on me.

OTOH, I can't even keep up in COMM these days.

I've been slogging through the old Bureaucracy posts about the recent unpleasantness - I feel it's my duty somehow, as a citizen here. I'm really proud of the way it all was handled. And I totally support the vague standards. It's true that there's no way to predict anti-social behavior. I'm also amazed and gratified by the way Buffistas are able to express their feelings about this, and about things in general. I aspire to your eloquence.


Fay - Jan 02, 2003 10:10:22 am PST #2101 of 10001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Can I just suggest that you'll never catch up in Natter?

My bad - I didn't mean to imply that introducing new threads would have any impact upon the size of Natter. Just that I might stand a chance of following and participating in a movie-centric conversation in a Movie thread, whereas the chances of me spotting such a convesation in Natter, let alone participating, are tiny. And I'm quite fond of movies, so that would be cool. (About Music I'm stunningly ignorant, and would probably not participate much.)

Maybe we need to change the slug to indicate that isn't for Literature.

Okay, a violent, violent NO from Camp Fay. Literature is books. It's writing. It's not "Literary Fiction", which is a specific genre and a class-issue and all kinds of shit like that. It's books. Literature=books. Not "Posh" books, or "Worthy" books or any of that shit. Books.

Ah. I appear to have another hair trigger. Stepping carefully off the soap box. Nothing to see here. Move along.

Re: ita's point - damn. Okay, I see where she's coming from. I don't want to make anyone's experience of the boards less positive.

Bugger.


Sophia Brooks - Jan 02, 2003 10:11:27 am PST #2102 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I think it is a priority thing-- I am the opposite of ita-- I find it hard to keep up with natter-- I can't catch up fast enough and if I skip to the end, I am lost and feel a bit like I am butting in on everyone's conversations. I keep up in the small threads because I can.


justkim - Jan 02, 2003 10:11:55 am PST #2103 of 10001
Another social casualty...

Just that I might stand a chance of following and participating in a movie-centric conversation in a Movie thread, whereas the chances of me spotting such a convesation in Natter, let alone participating, are tiny.

Fay is me


§ ita § - Jan 02, 2003 10:12:52 am PST #2104 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't find it hard to keep up in natter, since I have no problems skipping and skimming. I just hate the idea of talking movies less there.

That's my vote.


DavidS - Jan 02, 2003 10:18:57 am PST #2105 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Can I just suggest that you'll never catch up in Natter?

That's sort of the reason why we should have Music and Movie threads though. You can only discuss music if some other music interested folks are in Natter at that time. However in a dedicated thread with a slower pace you can maintain a conversation with folks on different time schedules and able to maintain a different pace.

Natter is about jumping in and going with the flow. The flow isn't always about music when I want it to be. In a music thread, it would be.

I get frustrated because I know there are folks out there I want to discuss music with that don't hang out in Natter much or aren't there when I am.