When the time comes that we can't laugh at ourselves, that's when I think we'll really run into trouble.

But you can't laugh at me, just so's you're clear.

Absolutely not.

As for saving the IP address with the post, it gives me a bit of a big brother quease.

But you already know this from the logs. It would just make it easier if we need to put a stop to some abuse.

I don't know it from the logs. That knowledge is contained therein, and I'm quite happy to leave it really difficult to find. Especially with the inconclusiveness of it all.

I mean, I can post from two completely different IPs from home -- different organizations and cities (although same state). Either of which someone else could be posting from too at the same time.

I'd just rather leave it very last-resorty, even though it means more work for me to find out.

Since my suggestion of logging IP addresses bothers you, I'll drop it.

It bothers *me*, but I'm not the arbiter.

I vote against it, you for.

We need other voices.

I just think if I pick apart all your arguments against, it will just irritate you. And I really don't care that much about it. So I'm changing my vote to no, making it unanimous.

It won't irritate me if you're convincing ...

But it's your call.

I don't see the point. Knowing the IP addresses doesn't prove anything either way.

Also-- I could be just stupid, but it seems to me that I have multiple IP addresses, that's the way my ISP does it. When I look at the hit logs for my website and the top five are all from ppp-string-of-numbers.cust.oldcity.dca.net, I'm betting they're all me, and not just five different really interested Philadelphians.

Exactly right, RL. One person can have multiple IP addresses, and several people can have the same IP address. I don't see the value of adding it to the post database.