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Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

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David J. Schwartz - Dec 27, 2002 4:00:15 pm PST #1593 of 10001
New, fully poseable Author!Knut.

If you're talking about the one I think you're talking about, his user ID number is lower than the one of the "original" troll. I find it... counterintuitive to open one account, then open another one several days later, and then start trolling using the second one. So I don't know if they are the same person.

I was thinking of someone else -- not the original. I just had the sense for a while today that someone was having a conversation with their own self.


Denise - Dec 27, 2002 4:02:43 pm PST #1594 of 10001

I was thinking of someone else -- not the original. I just had the sense for a while today that someone was having a conversation with their own self.

Yes. The second poster you're talking about, said she scrolled through the thread, and then began agreeing with him about stuff. Why would a self-proclaimed newbie go out of her way to agree with him, after seeing the stir he caused. Definitely smells fishy.

edit. And now they've both disappeared at the same time. Hmm....


Rob - Dec 27, 2002 4:03:06 pm PST #1595 of 10001

I was thinking of someone else -- not the original. I just had the sense for a while today that someone was having a conversation with their own self.

I'm David. But in an agreeing way, not in a same-person-typing-pretending-to-be-two-people way.


Connie Neil - Dec 27, 2002 4:03:48 pm PST #1596 of 10001
brillig

But was he offensive? I thought the conversation was funny.


PaulJ - Dec 27, 2002 4:04:31 pm PST #1597 of 10001

Well, I was thinking of "Mike P" as the supposed doppelgänger. Is that what you are talking about?


§ ita § - Dec 27, 2002 4:04:34 pm PST #1598 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

David is already Hec. That's why he's Knut.

Please excuse me while I expire in a cloud of oldtimerness sautéed in a light oil of obscure injokery.


John H - Dec 27, 2002 4:04:36 pm PST #1599 of 10001

if they have the same address in postings ten minutes apart, there's no explanation other then that they are using the same computer or going through NAT, and that means they almost have to be in the same physical place.

Plasmo and I work for the same corporation.

We live a twelve-hour-plus drive away from each other and very rarely meet in real life.

But our IP addresses on the web would be the same during work hours because we're behind the same corporate firewall.

Of course Plasmo and I aren't claiming to be nothing to do with another.

Also, I don't know what NAT means.


Denise - Dec 27, 2002 4:05:44 pm PST #1600 of 10001

But was he offensive? I thought the conversation was funny.

No, neither of them were offensive, but the other board I frequent has a rule against posting under different identities. Do you guys have that rule here?


§ ita § - Dec 27, 2002 4:06:17 pm PST #1601 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Network Address Translation.

Most firewalls present a different IP address (and one) to the web, and translate on the way through to the internal IP address. So while my PC may very well say 192.100.0.105, the firewall will be telling the world I'm 12.15.10.195, and it will also be saying that my coworker is 12.15.10.195. When the packets come back, it worries about which are mine and which are his.


PaulJ - Dec 27, 2002 4:06:55 pm PST #1602 of 10001

NAT: Network Address Translation. A way for several computer to share the same Internet connection (and therefore the same IP).

(Well, not 100% accurate, but you get the idea).