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Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

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John H - Dec 27, 2002 4:04:36 pm PST #1599 of 10001

if they have the same address in postings ten minutes apart, there's no explanation other then that they are using the same computer or going through NAT, and that means they almost have to be in the same physical place.

Plasmo and I work for the same corporation.

We live a twelve-hour-plus drive away from each other and very rarely meet in real life.

But our IP addresses on the web would be the same during work hours because we're behind the same corporate firewall.

Of course Plasmo and I aren't claiming to be nothing to do with another.

Also, I don't know what NAT means.


Denise - Dec 27, 2002 4:05:44 pm PST #1600 of 10001

But was he offensive? I thought the conversation was funny.

No, neither of them were offensive, but the other board I frequent has a rule against posting under different identities. Do you guys have that rule here?


§ ita § - Dec 27, 2002 4:06:17 pm PST #1601 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Network Address Translation.

Most firewalls present a different IP address (and one) to the web, and translate on the way through to the internal IP address. So while my PC may very well say 192.100.0.105, the firewall will be telling the world I'm 12.15.10.195, and it will also be saying that my coworker is 12.15.10.195. When the packets come back, it worries about which are mine and which are his.


PaulJ - Dec 27, 2002 4:06:55 pm PST #1602 of 10001

NAT: Network Address Translation. A way for several computer to share the same Internet connection (and therefore the same IP).

(Well, not 100% accurate, but you get the idea).


DXMachina - Dec 27, 2002 4:07:25 pm PST #1603 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

X-posty with above, and they remember their NAT better than I do.


David J. Schwartz - Dec 27, 2002 4:09:05 pm PST #1604 of 10001
New, fully poseable Author!Knut.

But was he offensive? I thought the conversation was funny.

He was fairly well behaved, except for the refrain of "I'm-being-funny-you-stupid-bints." But let me put this out on the table: he's killing any discussion in the thread that isn't centered around him. People are avoiding the thread, and talking around things so as not to engage him. We need to follow our own rules, but I'd like to see him gone. And if it becomes necessary to ban him, we need to know if he's posting under aliases as well.

Signed,

Talking big even though I haven't been around much until recently. But still a Buffista.


Fay - Dec 27, 2002 4:09:09 pm PST #1605 of 10001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

bangs head on desk

Dear God, let there not be games of multiple identity going on. Please. Pretty please.

t / been burnt with that one before on other board.


John H - Dec 27, 2002 4:11:01 pm PST #1606 of 10001

while my PC may very well say 192.100.0.105, the firewall will be telling the world I'm 12.15.10.195, and it will also be saying that my coworker is 12.15.10.195

Precisely.

You'll see hits from both me and Plasmo, during work hours, from 203.2.218.1 probably.

All I ever meant to say was "two posters who have the same IP address" isn't quite enough proof.


Rob - Dec 27, 2002 4:12:21 pm PST #1607 of 10001

It's enough proof to ask them about it. In your example, you guys work for the same company. And know each other. It's not random.


David J. Schwartz - Dec 27, 2002 4:13:43 pm PST #1608 of 10001
New, fully poseable Author!Knut.

PaulJ, that's not who I was thinking of. But I'm reluctant to name names, though, since I'd hate to impugn anyone wrongly.

David is already Hec. That's why he's Knut.

Please excuse me while I expire in a cloud of oldtimerness sautéed in a light oil of obscure injokery.

I love being an esoteric reference.