Giles: I jump out of the circle, jump back in, and, and, shake my gourd. Buffy: Hey, I think I know this ritual. The ancient shamans were next called upon to do the Hokey-Pokey and to turn themselves around.

'Dirty Girls'


Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Jen - Dec 26, 2002 1:51:37 pm PST #1372 of 10001
love's a dream you enter though I shake and shake and shake you

I've been skimming the Firefly thread looking for F:IA news. Otherwise, it's just way too off-topic to wade through most of the time.


Jon B. - Dec 26, 2002 1:52:42 pm PST #1373 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I think y'all are talking about two people. One is clearly a troll. The other is often rude but also contributes. I know that DX posted a warning to the troll on FF, but was he sent an email about it? I think that would be an appropriate step. Not sure what to do about the rude one.


Laura - Dec 26, 2002 1:55:11 pm PST #1374 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

I am 730 posts behind there already. I will have to wait for a day when I can do a massive skimmy read of about 100 posts per page. I usually don't mind ignoring and refusing to feed, but when the post counts get so high I just don't have time. Sigh and grumble.


Steph L. - Dec 26, 2002 1:57:21 pm PST #1375 of 10001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

I think y'all are talking about two people. One is clearly a troll. The other is often rude but also contributes. I know that DX posted a warning to the troll on FF, but was he sent an email about it? I think that would be an appropriate step. Not sure what to do about the rude one.

Speaking only for myself, I *was* talking about 2 people. And, really, my issues are minor -- I just don't read the FF thread. I just thought I'd take the opportunity to mention my love of the ENUF filter-to-come.


DXMachina - Dec 26, 2002 1:59:40 pm PST #1376 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

I know that DX posted a warning to the troll on FF, but was he sent an email about it? I think that would be an appropriate step. Not sure what to do about the rude one.

Okay, I see our original troll came back. My feeling is to give him the boot with our big stompy foot. I warned him. I didn't e-mail the warning, but it was posted immediately after one of his posts.


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 26, 2002 2:36:43 pm PST #1377 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I'd tend to agree, DX. There are now several prolific posters in the FF thread whose posts make my eyes glaze over by reflex, but the one you're speaking of is demonstrating deliberately trollish behavior (as opposed to merely offensive/annoying to me). With all the newbies on the thread, a simple "don't respond and it'll go away" strategy may not be possible to implement.


Betsy HP - Dec 26, 2002 4:02:08 pm PST #1378 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Perhaps we should start explicitly pointing people to Natter? On the one hand, this is only relocating the problem, but better Natter than Firefly.

[And go ahead and stomp the deliberate troll.]


P.M. Marc - Dec 26, 2002 4:05:36 pm PST #1379 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Perhaps we should start explicitly pointing people to Natter? On the one hand, this is only relocating the problem, but better Natter than Firefly.

Part of the thread swell is from the intentional Salad Shooter Troll Deflecting.

I'd say that most of the off-topicality is from them what knows where Natter is and what to do with it. (Pleads guilty.)


Betsy HP - Dec 26, 2002 4:06:21 pm PST #1380 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Yeah, I'm guilty too, but I'm starting to think the natteriness encourages people who want to make Michigan jokes.


Fay - Dec 26, 2002 4:06:30 pm PST #1381 of 10001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

The Natterishness of the thread hadn't troubled me, but I don't see any problem with pointing people over to Natter - seems logical enough to me.

I must admit to finding the recent tone of the conversation distressing at times, but I'm not sure whether this is a case of rough edges which will eventually smooth themselves out, or whether I'm simply downright incompatible with one of the new folks. On the other hand, there are a good number of very nice new folks whom I'm happy to have around.