This money, it is too much. You should have some small refund.

Niska ,'War Stories'


All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

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Jon B. - Dec 26, 2012 4:29:03 pm PST #9695 of 9843
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Warning: Sue's white-fonted comments are regarding series 3 as a whole, NOT the Xmas special!


Dana - Dec 26, 2012 4:35:13 pm PST #9696 of 9843
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

I am dubious about the actor's choice to leave the show. You, um, enjoy your lack of success elsewhere, okay? But I kind of felt the same way about Tennant leaving Who.

I do love Thomas. He's a total bastard, but then they keep making him a woobie and I keep falling for it. (Note to keyboard: not a "wookie." That's a little different.)


Sue - Dec 26, 2012 4:42:25 pm PST #9697 of 9843
hip deep in pie

I hope I didn't spoil you Jon. I'll edit to make that clear.

Dana, I wonder if he's not pulling a Caruso. I like him on Downton, but I don't know if he's all that as an actor, or all that versatile.

Full credit to Rob James Collier for making Thomas work. He's been really great. Also I was happy to see in S. 3 Allen Leech can act. I wasn't all that sure after s. 2, even if I did think he was adorable. Those endless garage scenes w. Sibyl left me cold.


Dana - Dec 26, 2012 5:14:36 pm PST #9698 of 9843
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

Yes, I definitely find Branson more interesting now.


Sue - Dec 26, 2012 5:19:04 pm PST #9699 of 9843
hip deep in pie

Although they've manipulated his character to fit the show's need. Revolutionary Republican to estate manager is quite the transformation.


Fiona - Dec 26, 2012 10:54:45 pm PST #9700 of 9843

Why is everybody being so mean about Dan Stevens' acting abilities? I first saw him playing a cocaine-sorting gay '80s go-getter in The Line of Beauty (take that, cousin Matthew) and he was just fine.

This has been his role with the biggest profile, especially in the States, but he already had a pretty solid resume. I think the character has been a bad fit rather than anything else, which also partly explains why he's leaving .


Sue - Dec 27, 2012 3:53:48 am PST #9701 of 9843
hip deep in pie

Fiona, I didn't intend to be mean. I did say he was fine on Downton, which is the only thing I've seen him in. I think he did well, even when the storylines had me cringing. And he had great chemistry with Dockery. (Though I expect Dockery's the one with the BBOC chemistry.) I don't think he had a profile at all in North America before Downton. So I do wonder about his wider appeal and range.

I understand his desire to leave. He also had to endure the silliest storyline (his tragic paralysis and miraculous cure) and though he was unfailingly polite about it, there was also a raised eyebrow whenever he talked about it.


Jon B. - Dec 27, 2012 10:27:40 am PST #9702 of 9843
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

You didn't spoil me, Sue -- no worries! I've seen all of S3. I was worried about Dana.


Jon B. - Dec 27, 2012 10:30:35 am PST #9703 of 9843
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

OK, I was totally confused. I didn't realize there was *another* Xmas special. I thought the talk was about last year's. Which makes no sense on many levels, I know. My excuse is my cold-addled brain.


Sue - Dec 27, 2012 10:31:25 am PST #9704 of 9843
hip deep in pie

My excuse is my cold-addled brain.

Oh don't worry, I have one of those too.