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All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

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P.M. Marc - Jan 05, 2012 1:54:38 pm PST #9369 of 9843
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I do think that, much like ACD Holmes and Watson were originally written as young men and the BBC series has tried to recapture the that feel for the audience and push away the cobwebs, the reinterpretation of Adler for modern audiences seems to try to recapture some of what the original readers would have read into the character in the portrayal.

It's always tricky. Times and customs change, and, of course, modern era fans of the original are reading with a completely different context. It obviously worked for some of us, not for others.

(Secondary and critical note, if I could somehow manage to remove the unreconstructed Orientalism from Moff and Gatiss's imaginations, I so totally would. It's like a drinking game with me at this point. Although if I really were drinking, I don't think I could've ever got through the Lucifer Box books and remained upright.)


Zenkitty - Jan 05, 2012 6:19:54 pm PST #9370 of 9843
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I finally saw Scandal. Loved it, although there were some things I didn't like. Initially I didn't like her being recast as a dominatrix, but that was because I expected to be disappointed (I usually am, when a woman is portrayed as a sex worker). I didn't like her turning out to be a criminal and a terrorist-enabler, but I also didn't like it when (I thought) she was dead, so I guess I liked her anyway. The one thing I wished Moffat hadn't changed was who won their game. In the story, Irene gets the better of Sherlock and is gone; in this, although she does get the better of him, he gets his own back - not only does he "win", he saves her life. I liked it that there was one person who got the better of Sherlock and it was a woman. I'm glad at least this Irene also both attracted him and beat him with her intellect, not her sexuality. However, in all honesty, if I'd been writing that, I don't think I could have resisted writing that ending either. It was ridiculous, but what the hell, it was fun. The whole episode was fun.

I decided Mrs. Hudson was a little iffy on the moral front, too, when her reaction to bullet holes in her walls was concern for the wallpaper, not the people on the other side of it. "You could've killed someone!" is the sane immediate reaction there, not "That's coming out of your rent!" Also, just the fact that she has such a close relationship with the man who got her husband convicted of murder - I can see being grateful to him for getting the husband away from her, but then treating him like a son doesn't seem the sanest reaction. From what this episode, she considers Sherlock family, and he doesn't object.

I think most sane people would want to stay far away from Sherlock. Use his services when needed, but not get close. But Mrs. Hudson, and John, and Lestrade, and even Molly all want to stay in his orbit, and that tells me they're likely as screwed-up as... well, as I am. I would like to see who's in Mycroft's orbit. I'd also like to know if he knows about Anthea's involvement with Irene.

Oh, I'd also like to know if that guy was really killed by a freaking boomerang. That didn't make any sense to me. He's supposed to be on the Flight of the Dead, so he's got to be already dead, but then how and why did he get into the field?


DebetEsse - Jan 05, 2012 6:46:35 pm PST #9371 of 9843
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Anthea's involvement with Irene

(Ok, so I wasn't crazy in thinking that was her. For scoring as well as I did on that facial recognition test, I am crap at "Is that someone we're supposed to know? What character is that?")

Also, OHShit, that probably means that Anthea is in with Moriarty. I don't want this show to get all espionage-y.

I think that the boomerang guy was not one of the Bond Air people, so, yes, I believe that he was actually killed by a boomerang.

Anytime they talk about "terrorists", I find myself assuming that it is the Moriarty network, even though it probably wasn't, in the case of the Bond Air plotters.


Zenkitty - Jan 05, 2012 6:56:18 pm PST #9372 of 9843
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Ok, so I wasn't crazy in thinking that was her.

I wasn't sure it was her until John was all, oh, you're just picking me up for Mycroft, and then he got into a car. Her hair is different, I think.

I think that the boomerang guy was not one of the Bond Air people

Mycroft said he was. Didn't he?

Bond Air. Ha.


Calli - Jan 06, 2012 2:48:10 am PST #9373 of 9843
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I think that John's just reached the point where he assumes lovely women leading him to sleek, black cars are taking him to Mycroft for another little talk. Poor man.


Tom Scola - Jan 06, 2012 5:12:32 am PST #9374 of 9843
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

Uncle Sleuth

The detective work of Sherlock Holmes in the BBC's version of the character is only impressive if you have never seen House or CSI, even once accidentally while waiting for something else to come on. "Noises can tell you everything," the sleuth opines, and somehow everyone around him resists vomiting in their tea. Cumberbatch's Sherlock Holmes treats women as if they were mentally disabled idiots incapable of understanding the logic (of noises). If Holmes treated people this way in America, he'd be qualified for the Republican presidential nomination.


P.M. Marc - Jan 06, 2012 6:22:22 am PST #9375 of 9843
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

That wasn't Lisa McAllister. So, not Anthea.


P.M. Marc - Jan 06, 2012 6:22:22 am PST #9376 of 9843
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

DebetEsse - Jan 06, 2012 6:30:42 am PST #9377 of 9843
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Good, then, that makes things simpler.


P.M. Marc - Jan 06, 2012 6:34:55 am PST #9378 of 9843
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Had the author actually watched any of the other three episodes?

Or, you know, paid much attention to that one? Because reducing the window toss moment to this

As bad as the female gender is, Americans drive Sherlock absolutely bonkers. If a British person offends him, the ensuing Oscar Wilde-like dance constitutes an elaborate game he's going to win anyway. When Holmes encounters an American, he pepper sprays the poor guy and throws him out a window like some kind of reverse Captain America.

Completely misses the point. (Also, Mrs Hudson is not a servant, she's his landlady, though she clearly acts in loco parentis de facto for him.)

There are legit critiques to be made. Those... lacked context.