Wesley: And how does your kind define love? Demon: Same as all bodies. Same as everywheres. Love is sacrifice.

'The Girl in Question'


All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

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§ ita § - Dec 29, 2011 1:14:37 pm PST #9301 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Whoa. Just watched the rest of Misfits. It's kind of over for me, even if I keep watching. With Alisha dying and Simon looping, it feels like a self-contained set. Whatever comes next will be very different.

When was the Vegas picture taken?


tiggy - Dec 29, 2011 1:35:23 pm PST #9302 of 9843
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

between seasons two and three. there was a throwaway line from Simon about leaving Nathan there in the premiere.


§ ita § - Dec 29, 2011 2:09:10 pm PST #9303 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

CHEATERS.

Or, you know, whatever.


tiggy - Dec 29, 2011 5:30:41 pm PST #9304 of 9843
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

I know! I wanted to see.


§ ita § - Jan 01, 2012 2:03:20 pm PST #9305 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm trying to decide how I feel about today's Sherlock. Was the sexuality OTT and self-indulgent? Or...is that just part of the package?

Not entirely sure.

eta: I love how quickly there's fanart.


§ ita § - Jan 01, 2012 4:04:51 pm PST #9306 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

And almost as quickly, I have encountered my first Irene apologist. Did I miss something? She was evil, right? I mean she wasn't "misbehaving" and she wasn't "drawn that way"? I feel like one of us missed something pretty big at the end there.


Polter-Cow - Jan 01, 2012 4:25:17 pm PST #9307 of 9843
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I'm trying to decide how I feel about today's Sherlock. Was the sexuality OTT and self-indulgent? Or...is that just part of the package?

Right? As soon as she was introduced as a dominatrix, I was like, what, way to Miller-ize her (à la Catwoman).

Did I miss something? She was evil, right? I mean she wasn't "misbehaving" and she wasn't "drawn that way"? I feel like one of us missed something pretty big at the end there.

I wasn't really sure by the end what her whole deal was and what exactly her involvement was in things, but I am fairly confident she was not just some mischievous minx and, in fact, cared very little for human life.


§ ita § - Jan 01, 2012 4:32:59 pm PST #9308 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I am fairly confident she was not just some mischievous minx and, in fact, cared very little for human life.

Seriously. I mean, her downfall was that she seemed to be sincerely in love/obsessed with Sherlock, but she was doing dealings with terrorists, et al. In my reading the big reveal was that she was worse than we'd been assuming all this time.

Why Sherlock needed to rescue her I don't get, but it's not like he has an actual empathic moral code or anything.


Polter-Cow - Jan 01, 2012 4:37:24 pm PST #9309 of 9843
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Hm, in the original story, she's a mistress to foreign nationals, so I guess dominatrix doesn't come out of nowhere, at least. I'm looking forward to reading the original stuff and catching the references...in series three! Which I presume will happen.

she was doing dealings with terrorists, et al. In my reading the big reveal was that she was worse than we'd been assuming all this time.

Yeah, that was my read as well, but I couldn't tell where she stacked up against, say, Moriarty, who seems worse. Yet, she appears to basically get a thrill out of fucking with people, no matter who gets hurt. Moriarty hurts with intent; she just doesn't give a fuck if you die while she has fun.


§ ita § - Jan 01, 2012 4:46:40 pm PST #9310 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

a mistress to foreign nationals, so I guess dominatrix doesn't come out of nowhere

Yes it does! Being someone's (or multiple someones) mistress has nothing to do with BDSM, professional or not.

I couldn't tell where she stacked up against, say, Moriarty, who seems worse

Damning with faint praise. However, she freely works with him, so that doesn't bother her either. I am so not sure why this person is trying to convince me she's misunderstood. Convince me instead that Sherlock doesn't care (although Mycroft seemed to be implying that he did, huh?).