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All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

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Fiona - Feb 19, 2010 9:45:13 pm PST #8922 of 9843

Thank you! And belated Happy Returns to you, Beverly!


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Apr 24, 2010 12:37:50 am PDT #8923 of 9843
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

Anyone been watching the new season of Ashes to Ashes? Fay? Fiona? It's taken a leap forward in quality. Not quite Life on Mars level yet, but much more well-written than previous seasons.


DebetEsse - Apr 24, 2010 5:25:39 am PDT #8924 of 9843
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I have. I think I'm a couple eps behind, but I'm getting caught up. I agree that this season is going well. Particularly being a LoM fan, I get excited when they talk about Sam (Although why she doesn't call Annie, I do not know)


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Apr 24, 2010 7:05:37 am PDT #8925 of 9843
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

Although why she doesn't call Annie, I do not know

Good point. I wonder if they're going to deal with that.


DebetEsse - Apr 24, 2010 4:59:54 pm PDT #8926 of 9843
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I know that it's mostly beside the point, and she isn't "real" to Alex, but I'd like to see them go to that direction. Maybe a bit of stunt casting, if you will. Seems like she'd be relevant if you're trying to make sense of "what's the point of this place?"

eta: I think particularly with the "how to be a female police officer" theme


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Apr 24, 2010 10:43:20 pm PDT #8927 of 9843
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

I think particularly with the "how to be a female police officer" theme

Yes, that's been interesting. Have you seen Shaz's episode?


Fiona - Apr 25, 2010 5:34:14 am PDT #8928 of 9843

I've been watching. I'm pretty sure they're preparing the ground for Sam to show up again. I have asked myself the Annie question too, but Alex probably doesn't know much about Annie. None of the men has mentioned her, and who knows how much Sam referred to her in his notes (they only really got together after he "returned" anyway). So I'm not surprised she's not seeking her out.

This series is solid, but it's never been as good as LoM at its peak, and I'm quite glad it's the last. I just wonder if the "solution" to the "mystery" will be (a) given at all; (b) pulled-out-of-their-asses or (c) actually make some kind of narrative sense .


Typo Boy - Apr 25, 2010 9:54:28 am PDT #8929 of 9843
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Hmm to me there is no explanation that will be as satisfying as leaving it a mystery. I kind of hope she does wake up though.


DebetEsse - Apr 25, 2010 10:08:27 am PDT #8930 of 9843
Woe to the fucking wicked.

The matchmaking one? Well, I've seen them all, but I'm not sure which one you're referring to.

You think they'll bring Sam back? Interesting. I could see him showing up as a "ghost", but as really for realz alive? They'd have to sell me hard on that.

I did notice that "Life on Mars" was playing during Ray's light-shift hallucination moment in the most recent ep (and said to myself, "What's up with that? He's from here.")


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Apr 25, 2010 11:25:57 am PDT #8931 of 9843
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

I did notice that "Life on Mars" was playing during Ray's light-shift hallucination moment in the most recent ep

Ooh. I'm going to have to go back and look for that.

Yep, the speed-dating episode. I'm starting to wonder whether other characters are in comas or from the 2000s. At one point last season there was a real-world reference to another man in a coma. I've only seen each of the episodes of AtA once, and I don't remember what my original thought was of the significance of that. But you add in Shaz seeing stars, and I'm wondering whether that's just an echo of Alex's visions, or whether it's something else.

I, too, am hoping for an ending that's at least coherent. The Life on Mars ending took away the glorious ambiguity of the show, for me. Ashes to Ashes hasn't been at all ambiguous, but it's regaining some of that now, which is fun.