Wesley: Perhaps the whole point of this experiment is hair. Gunn: I vote he's not in charge.

'The Cautionary Tale of Numero Cinco'


All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

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brenda m - Sep 19, 2002 9:07:47 am PDT #86 of 9843
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Thanks Megan, I was trying to remember that yesterday, to no avail.


Nutty - Sep 19, 2002 9:14:06 am PDT #87 of 9843
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

It's funny -- from the look of this thread, it seems like we deal with our authors just as we deal with our grandparents: trying to mediate betwen gratefulness for what they gave us and grudges against their flaws. Okay, that's not very profound.

But, you know. I don't often think of authors as like relatives, or even, I confess, like people. They're just the secret hand inside the puppet. They give me novels, and the novels are good or bad and I'm grateful for them or try to forgive them their flaws, but it hardly occurs to me to think that way about authors.


Rebecca Lizard - Sep 19, 2002 9:15:35 am PDT #88 of 9843
You sip / say it's your crazy / straw say it's you're crazy / as you bicycle your soul / with beauty in your basket

But, you know. I don't often think of authors as like relatives, or even, I confess, like people. They're just the secret hand inside the puppet.

Wrod, Nutty. I haven't been able to articulate that.


Betsy HP - Sep 19, 2002 9:47:46 am PDT #89 of 9843
If I only had a brain...

even, I confess, like people.

Fascinating. I think of Yeats as my cranky old greatuncle. Seriously. I have that same amused and respectful affection. And I have never read a Kipling biography, even though I'd really like to, because one of his late poems goes on about how he doesn't want one to be written. Courtesy, at least, to a dead author.


evil jimi - Sep 19, 2002 3:04:01 pm PDT #90 of 9843
Lurching from one disaster to the next.

if you put a lower case t in front of that statement, it will automatically put the tags around it, like so:

cool. Ta Megan.

next time I promise to read the faq and how-to and what-not :)


Megan E. - Sep 19, 2002 3:09:25 pm PDT #91 of 9843

any time jimi. that's what we're all here for!


John H - Sep 19, 2002 5:29:00 pm PDT #92 of 9843

If we're going to do Fantasy Authors Of That Era, can we talk Peake?

I was reminded of him by this:

[CLS spent] several years at a boarding school run by a clinically insane sadist - a place so horrible he called it "Belsen" in his autobiography

Mervyn Peake spent time in both a British Public School and a Nazi Concentration Camp, but he always said the former had the greater influence on him...


JZ - Sep 19, 2002 5:40:46 pm PDT #93 of 9843
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Ooh, love Peake. Love Peake, and am totally out of time and must pound out a truckload of work before five, thus leaving me time to say nothing more than "Love Peake."

Possibly more articulate gushing tomorrow.


Fiona - Sep 21, 2002 5:24:16 am PDT #94 of 9843

So, what's the verdict on Firefly?


Theodosia - Sep 21, 2002 5:32:04 am PDT #95 of 9843
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

It didn't rock like a rocking thing, but it didn't suck like a sucking thing either. The Buffistas who were over my house had no trouble sitting through a second viewing immediately after the first (Ed finally arrived a half-hour after we'd started watching, and we'd delayed a good 20 minutes before starting, so when it finished we went back to show him the scenes he'd missed, and just watched it all the way through again, without fidgeting).

There seems to be agreement that while this premiere episode wasn't anything special, it looks good in comparison to any of the Star Trek pilots or B5.

It was also much more "Western" -- including a train heist -- than most people including me expected.