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All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

Discussion of episodes currently airing in Un-American locations (anything that's aired in Australia is fair game), as well as anything else the Un-Americans feel like talking about or we feel like asking them. Please use the show discussion threads for any current-season discussion.

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erikaj - Dec 20, 2006 11:01:21 am PST #8313 of 9843
Always Anti-fascist!

My name is incredibly ethnic for these parts. Probably not in Chicago.


Trudy Booth - Dec 20, 2006 11:12:16 am PST #8314 of 9843
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I want to know how long you'd consider yourself ethnic.

As long as you care to.


Liese S. - Dec 20, 2006 6:58:42 pm PST #8315 of 9843
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

It's interesting. We use the word "Anglo" on the reservation to refer to the non-Native population. Which includes me, although I am decidedly not Anglo.

And I'm fourth generation, which is longer ago than some of you, but since my bloodline is all Japanese, I identify as such.

As a sidenote, my mother (who, like all three previous generations, grew up in Hawaii) when asked about her ethnic heritage will reply that she's from Hawaii. When pressed for detail, she will elaborate that she's Japanese. I, who grew up in Ohio, when asked (if not giving a snarky answer to an ill-phrased question) will respond that I am Japanese. When pressed, I will elaborate with my familial history & immigration tale through Hawaii.


Volans - Dec 21, 2006 1:51:35 am PST #8316 of 9843
move out and draw fire

We use the word "Anglo" on the reservation to refer to the non-Native population.

Are Hispanics included in this? When/where I grew up in NM, there were 3 races: Native American, Hispanic, and Anglo (usually called Indian, Mexican, and gringo). Anglo included Asians, definitely.


Laura - Dec 21, 2006 3:52:12 am PST #8317 of 9843
Our wings are not tired.

The ethnic heritage conversation has been interesting. I thought I had a common American mix with my Irish, German, Native American, and French ancestors. Then I married DH and my kids now have English and Russian in their mix. Our siblings married people that add ancestors that came through Haiti, Puerto Rico, Bahamas, and Sweden to the mix. Family gatherings include a lot of bloodlines.

Our children's gatherings include children from all over the globe so I expect the mix to get mixier in future generations. I overhear the kids discussing their varied parentage. They encourage them in school to share their stories of family traditions based on their heritage. They know so much more about other cultures than I did at that age.

Where I was raised in upstate NY it was still the Italians lived in this section and the Irish lived there and the Polish over here. We were close enough to Canada that people referred to Canucks. Didn't matter what language they spoke. I only saw people with Hispanic or Oriental heritage on television until I was an adult.


Hil R. - Dec 21, 2006 4:54:23 am PST #8318 of 9843
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

To get even further into the divisions within groups, I'm 1/4 German-Jewish, and 3/4 Eastern European Jewish. (Though my grandmother would have claimed it was half and half -- she never quite accepted that her husband, who grew up in Vienna, had parents from Poland.) Those divisions don't mean quite as much now as they used to, but there are still vestiges -- German Jews seen as more upper-class and proper. Most of the stereotypical "Jewish" stuff in popular culture is Eastern European. Most of the German Jews in the US came over here earlier and tended to be more successful -- the big department stores, the banking families, etc. -- while the Eastern Europeans were the ones who came later and lived on the lower east side.


Liese S. - Dec 21, 2006 6:28:38 am PST #8319 of 9843
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

No, you're right, Raq, Hispanics were the third group, yup.


JZ - Dec 21, 2006 7:27:21 am PST #8320 of 9843
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

my mother (who, like all three previous generations, grew up in Hawaii) when asked about her ethnic heritage will reply that she's from Hawaii. When pressed for detail, she will elaborate that she's Japanese. I, who grew up in Ohio, when asked (if not giving a snarky answer to an ill-phrased question) will respond that I am Japanese.

Huh. One of the coolest supervisors I've ever had, also Japanese American (and also a gifted musician like you), was born in Ohio and moved to Hawaii at age 5. If you tell me you've ever had a completely random weird childhood pet (he and his sibs had a pet donkey that his father brought home for them one day, never really explaining where he'd found it or why), I'm going to assume the two of you are Bizarro World antimatter negative twins.


sumi - Dec 21, 2006 12:10:10 pm PST #8321 of 9843
Art Crawl!!!

So glad that Fay and SA have managed to get to London and meet up despite the fog.


Liese S. - Dec 21, 2006 5:30:37 pm PST #8322 of 9843
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Huh. That is total Bizarro World. I didn't have a random weird childhood pet, but because I am his antimatter negative twin, this makes sense. And in fact, it explains why, growing up, I never had a pet (except the goldfish I won at the county fair) making Seabiscuit my first dog, even though my sister had a duck, a mouse, a gerbil, a goat, a parakeet, a pony, and a horse.