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All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

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Nutty - Dec 20, 2006 10:25:18 am PST #8292 of 9843
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Lewiston hasn't been a paper town for a long while, although there used to be quite a few on the Androscoggin River. (Starting at Berlin, NH, which still smells like farts.)

Bates College is in Lewiston, and it's a very weird place for it, too.

Polack jokes are fairly common in Central Connecticut, where there are a lot of Polish last names. I don't remember what ethnicity was subbed in around Boston. (My guess would have been Portuguese, the Irish having a long history of professional ethnic pride.)

Yes, you too can have a region almost entirely populated by white people, and think of some way to find and magnify differences among them!!


DavidS - Dec 20, 2006 10:25:38 am PST #8293 of 9843
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

There's a plurality of German Americans and their descendants among white Americans?

Yes. And it's fairly high too, though German-American were much more likely to mix with other ethnicities early on.

With or without removing Hispanics?

I think so, still. Hispanics are often divvied up into two categories with the EEO for Hispanic, White and Hispanic, Not So White. I'm not sure of their total numbers, but I still think German-Americans have the biggest single ethnic chunk.


Connie Neil - Dec 20, 2006 10:27:34 am PST #8294 of 9843
brillig

I'd love to see numbers for how many people immigrated in the last century, and where they came from.

[link]

"Historical Census Statistics on the Foreign-born Population of the United States: 1850-1990"

Ask a genealogist and ye shall receive


Jesse - Dec 20, 2006 10:29:19 am PST #8295 of 9843
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

From here [link] you can get a PDF report that says, among other things, that nearly 1 in 6 people reported German ancestry on the 2000 US Census.

In 2000, 42.8 million people (15 percent of the population) considered themselves to be of German (or part-German) ancestry, the most frequent response to the census question (Figure 2).4 Other ancestries with over 15 million people in 2000 included Irish (30.5 million, or 11 percent), African American (24.9 million, or 9 percent), English (24.5 million, or 9 percent), American (20.2 million, or 7 percent), Mexican (18.4 million, or 7 percent), and Italian (15.6 million, or 6 percent).


§ ita § - Dec 20, 2006 10:33:04 am PST #8296 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If 1 in 6 people report themselves to be .015625 German, and 1 in 10 report themselves half Irish, does a tree falling make any sound? And in what accent?


Frankenbuddha - Dec 20, 2006 10:33:55 am PST #8297 of 9843
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I never heard Polish jokes, growing up. They were always Italian jokes.

You never heard Irish jokes in New England, Cindy? Maybe that's more of a Boston thing.


Jesse - Dec 20, 2006 10:34:02 am PST #8298 of 9843
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I'm just glad I hit three of the top four.


Nutty - Dec 20, 2006 10:34:56 am PST #8299 of 9843
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I want to know how long you'd consider yourself ethnic. I call myself mongrel white American, because one German here or there three generations back does not an ethnicity make. (The English and Scottish people eight generations back, I think they've expired.)


Jesse - Dec 20, 2006 10:37:10 am PST #8300 of 9843
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Here's the thing about ethnicity in the US, though -- my German ancestors came over much more recently than my French ones, but I have much more French-derived culture than German. If I'm any eth, it's French.


§ ita § - Dec 20, 2006 10:38:31 am PST #8301 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If I'm any eth, it's French.

It's American. Will you white people stop drawing lines? You have perfectly good non-white people to differentiate yourselves from.

Thanks for the source, Connie.