...can anyone explain to me how committing suicide while imprisoned indefinitely without trial constitutes an act of warfare?
:: has no words::
Everything looks good from here... Yes. Yes, this is a fertile land, and we will thrive. We will rule over all this land, and we will call it... 'This Land.' I think we should call it 'your grave!' Ah, curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal! Ha ha HA! Mine is an evil laugh! Now die! Oh, no, God! Oh, dear God in heaven!
Wash ,'Serenity'
All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American
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Fay - Jun 11, 2006 11:46:21 pm PDT #8071 of 9843
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.
Jars - Jun 11, 2006 11:57:51 pm PDT #8072 of 9843
Oh I know, Fay. We were literally laughing hysterically watching that on the news yesterday. I mean, do they really think anyone would take that seriously?
Volans - Jun 12, 2006 12:00:27 am PDT #8073 of 9843
move out and draw fire
I'm really hoping the woman who had to say that at the press conference resigns. I just freaking boggled when I heard that on the news.
Cass - Jun 12, 2006 12:37:07 am PDT #8074 of 9843
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
The hell?
The fuck?
Are we really suspected of being this stupid?
JZ - Jun 12, 2006 4:35:55 am PDT #8075 of 9843
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.
'm really hoping the woman who had to say that at the press conference resigns.
Oh, that was no woman, that was the Guantanamo camp commander, who AFAIK continues to stand by his words and by the crack-addled thought nonprocess behind them, or at least did continue as of early Saturday. He may possibly have suffered a sudden bout of humanity since then, but I doubt it.
Fred Pete - Jun 12, 2006 4:52:07 am PDT #8076 of 9843
Ann, that's a ferret.
Are we really suspected of being this stupid?
Sadly, I think so.
Nutty - Jun 12, 2006 4:59:07 am PDT #8077 of 9843
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
I have been reading up on Iran-Contra scandal, and I have to say, I could have told those guys that the US is impervious to shame.
(The citizens, more of a mixed bag, but boy howdy the barefaced chicanery as a matter of policy.)
(I don't know whether it's reassuring or depressing to recall that this state of affairs, the state where the government is smugly always in the right on foreign policy matters, is not entirely new.)
sumi - Jun 12, 2006 5:04:07 am PDT #8078 of 9843
Art Crawl!!!
God, I can't believe that they think we're so stupid.
Theodosia - Jun 12, 2006 5:16:05 am PDT #8079 of 9843
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"
I'm not sure the commander is entirely off on his assessment. IIRC, the cultural context of an act of suicide is somewhat different for the prisoners -- Islamic law is very harsh towards suicides except for intentional martyrdom in jihad. (It's an attractive way to exit, in a sense, as a hero instead of a loser, which is the real 'why' of many suicide bombers with depression, IMHO.) So, yeah, in that aspect, an organized multiple suicide while in custody is an effective way to protest and to play the Get Out of Hell card, both in this world and the next.
Fay - Jun 12, 2006 5:43:43 am PDT #8080 of 9843
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.
No, suicide is strictly forbidden in Islam.
There are 'muslims' with a political agenda who try to spin it so that suicide bombers are represented as not actually commiting suicide, because defending one's home and family from attack is something that Islam is big on, but this is up there with Pope Julian being all 'Yeah, it's okay to break the commandment against killing people because I say so'.