John H, do they use that kind in Vietnam, or are they going porcelain?

This is not the kind of thing we reserved british people like to go into detail over, but my vietnamese family have a squatting type toilet, yes. The other type were only found in "western-style" establishments like a Troung Nguyen or "vietnamese starbucks" outlet.

You get used to it.

I don't mind squat toilets as long as they're cleanish. I remember when I first went to SE Asia I hated the idea for about the first 2 weeks until I learned to read while squatting with a torch in my mouth - a basic travelling life skill.

I didn't find the squat toilets a big adjustment. In fact, given the lowered sanitary levels I was happy to have as much space as possible between the toilet & my precious bits. Then again, not male. (Er, not that men feel differently about sanitation, but rather that I wasn't likely to worry about undue effects on my prostate!)

not the kind of thing we reserved british people like to go into detail over

Oh, no, is it typical for the Ugly American to walk into the group and chirp, "Tell me all about your charming local toilet customs"? I was just wondering if you had to have good balance or be in shape, and if things went quicker that way.

until I learned to read while squatting with a torch in my mouth

Then you just set your book on the ground when you're going to wipe. Where do they keep the toilet paper? Is it on a roller or a platform? It seems like directly in front would be the easiest to reach without balance issues, or maybe overhead.

if you had to have good balance or be in shape, and if things went quicker that way.

You see how I said I didn't want to give details, and you're asking me for details?

But to answer your question, the room the toilet was in was so small that reaching a hand out in any direction, you could steady yourself against a wall. At first I found it really difficult, but I got used to it after a couple of days, but I didn't find any kind of transition problem coming back to "western" toilets.

I'll tell you what I really really missed over there, and that was a bath.

They had a shower, but no hot water, which wasn't a problem, because it was so incredibly hot that you always wanted a cold shower, and sometimes four or five a day.

But no bath.

I had no idea how much I enjoyed having baths until I didn't have one for a whole month. It really got to me. I mean there was probably an issue of stress, new language new country new weather, various responsibilities and whatever, plus privacy issues -- I was never entirely alone for that month either -- but I was like an addict. I fantasised about all the great baths I'd take when I got back, and reminisced over the good times I'd had in the bath with a good book and a glass of wine...

John, I so know what you mean about the baths. When I was travelling in China, I so longed for a bath. Finally we decided to stay in one nice joint-venture hotel so we could take hot baths. Ahhh!

The house I lived in my year in England had just a bath, no shower, and I hated it. If I could only have one, I'd choose the shower in a nanosecond. Baths are nice for the occasional relaxing soak, but I always feel cleaner after a shower, and they're warmer early in the morning in a cold house.

But it's easy to add a shower to a bath (just attach one of those showerhead on a cord thingys to the tap and hang it up above you.) Shower to bath? NSM.

It is unless the bath tub is under an eave, and you're my height. Lived in an apartment like that for two years, and always hated taking my showers sitting down. My next apartment had only a shower, and that was far better. Now I have both. Yay!

Baths are nice for the occasional relaxing soak, but I always feel cleaner after a shower

My first reaction to this is that you've made the mistake of thinking baths are to do with getting clean.

I quite agree that showers are better for that. In fact I sometimes have a shower before I get into the bath, if I'm feeling especially grubby.

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