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All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

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Sue - Feb 25, 2004 5:01:30 am PST #6846 of 9843
hip deep in pie

My broad hit from reading the section that contains that phrase is that the trilling wire in the blood is the spark of life in us that connects to the world, to the past, to time, but only lives on in those external things once we are past.


Deena - Feb 25, 2004 5:05:36 am PST #6847 of 9843
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

I love both Yeats and Eliot, but I think Eliot just a little more. I had to write a paper on Buddhist influences in the Waste Land and found a really fascinating myth/story that seemed to relate to the "dog that's friend to men."

The story, short version, is that Buddha visited a rich man. The rich man laid out a feast, but his people were starving. A demon in the shape of a dog or wolf dug up the bones of the poor people he was supposed to be governing and howled, to inform the Buddha of the evil the rich man did.


Angus G - Feb 26, 2004 12:34:30 am PST #6848 of 9843
Roguish Laird

I can't stand Yeats for some reason, I've just never "got" him despite having to teach him loads of times. Eliot is good but I like Wallace Stevens better than any of that lot. (I seem to prefer American poets for some reason. I'm not sure why; I certainly don't prefer American novelists. Anyway, Eliot gets marks for being born there.)


Fiona - Feb 26, 2004 12:43:45 am PST #6849 of 9843

Angus! Come stand over here next to me with the rest of the Yeats haters! (We did him for A-Level and I loved his stuff at first, but all that calculating self-mythologising really got to me after a bit).

ee cummings is my hero


Deena - Feb 26, 2004 1:15:48 am PST #6850 of 9843
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

She sang beyond the genius of the sea...

Wallace Stevens is one of my favorites too.


Trudy Booth - Feb 26, 2004 2:33:26 am PST #6851 of 9843
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Angus! Haven't seen you in AGES!


Angus G - Feb 26, 2004 12:00:15 pm PST #6852 of 9843
Roguish Laird

Hi Trudy! Mwah!


erikaj - Feb 27, 2004 9:50:22 am PST #6853 of 9843
Always Anti-fascist!

Hi, Angus!!


Sophia Brooks - Feb 27, 2004 10:20:16 am PST #6854 of 9843
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I love Yeats and Eliot, but Eliot a bit more, I think.

Doesn't the Mermaids singing bit come from John Donne:

Go and catch a falling star,
Get with child a mandrake root,
Tell me where all past years are,
Or who cleft the Devil's foot,
Teach me to hear the mermaids
singing,
Or to keep off envy's stinging,
And find
What wind
Serves to advance an honest mind.


Deena - Feb 27, 2004 12:11:58 pm PST #6855 of 9843
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

In The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock there's one stanza that goes:

Shall I part my hair behind? Do I dare to eat a peach?
I shall wear white flannel trousers, and walk upon the beach.
I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each.

It's my understanding that the mermaids are supposed to sing to passersby, to sailors, but they sing to one another, not to him.