One of you is gonna fall and die, and I'm not cleaning it up!

Mal ,'War Stories'


All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

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Jon B. - Aug 22, 2003 9:06:55 am PDT #6367 of 9843
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Who is Seinfeld?

Catching up and noticed that no one answered Allan. Seinfeld was an extremely popular American sitcom about a comedian (Jerry Seinfeld) living in NYC. He played "himself". It stood out with a radically different sensibility from any other Amercian sitcom I've seen. It's original premise was that it was "a show about nothing". One early episode, for instance, took place entirely in a Chinese restaurant while the main characters waited endlessly for a table. Another took place in a multi-level indoor car park while the main characters searched unsuccessfully for their car. Although later episodes had plots that could be described as Altman-esque (multiple storylines that interweave in unexpected ways), it never lost it's edge (IMO, I'm sure others will disagree).

One of the main characters, George, worked for the New York Yankees. An actor, playing George Steinbrenner's back (we never saw his face) was a recurring character.


Fred Pete - Aug 22, 2003 9:14:05 am PDT #6368 of 9843
Ann, that's a ferret.

Although later episodes had plots that could be described as Altman-esque (multiple storylines that interweave in unexpected ways), it never lost it's edge (IMO, I'm sure others will disagree).

I'd call it a show people either loved or hated. I was in the latter group -- I just never got it.


erikaj - Aug 22, 2003 9:19:41 am PDT #6369 of 9843
Always Anti-fascist!

I loved it. I must confess(darned American Solipsism) I thought he was kidding. I feel terrible, now!


flea - Aug 22, 2003 9:21:36 am PDT #6370 of 9843
information libertarian

I hated it. Except Kramer.


§ ita § - Aug 22, 2003 9:22:21 am PDT #6371 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I hated it all.

Thought it was clever but unengaging.


Nutty - Aug 22, 2003 9:26:11 am PDT #6372 of 9843
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Another in the hated it category. It was a show about people I would hate if I ever met them in real life, and it didn't give me a reason not to hate them in fiction, either.

And I never saw the point in paying attention to people I hate; even laughing at, not with, people like that is a waste of my time.


Jon B. - Aug 22, 2003 9:26:28 am PDT #6373 of 9843
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I think you were more likely to love it if you were a New Yorker.


Jon B. - Aug 22, 2003 9:29:26 am PDT #6374 of 9843
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I was also a sucker for the show's guiding principles: No hugging; no learning.


Sophia Brooks - Aug 22, 2003 9:39:41 am PDT #6375 of 9843
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I also hated it. I thought they were all mean, mean people, and I have enough mean people in my life without watching them on TV.


DavidS - Aug 22, 2003 9:39:59 am PDT #6376 of 9843
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Liked the show until Susan's death, which was treated so callously I couldn't like the characters after that.