Well, other bands know more than three chords. Your professional bands can play up to six, sometimes seven, completely different chords.

Oz ,'Storyteller'


All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

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§ ita § - Aug 12, 2003 6:28:02 pm PDT #6288 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

there is no way in hell I'd ever consume American beef.

Why?


Frankenbuddha - Aug 12, 2003 6:34:34 pm PDT #6289 of 9843
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

no offence but there is no way in hell I'd ever consume American beef. nosirree bob

Safer than UK beef these days, but I don't think you have to worry about that either.


evil jimi - Aug 12, 2003 6:49:01 pm PDT #6290 of 9843
Lurching from one disaster to the next.

A few weeks ago SBS TV screened a Frontline episode about US beef production. All American beef cattle are raised in feed lots, where they eat nothing but corn--a food their stomachs were not created to process--and spend their entire lives standing or lying in faeces. After their accelerated fattening process gets them to a point where they're ready for slaughter, they're processed in a manner that is so fast-paced and volume-based, that health and safety controls are pretty much rendered pointless.

However, what really turned my stomach was the constant claim that American beef is "marbled" b/c "marbling" gives it the flavour Americans love so much. Ugh, no thanks, I'll stick to a nice lean Aussie steak.


Frankenbuddha - Aug 12, 2003 6:50:36 pm PDT #6291 of 9843
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Avoid Kobe beef at all costs then - it's NOTHING but marbling.


Susan W. - Aug 12, 2003 7:18:02 pm PDT #6292 of 9843
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I love chicken fried steak. But what's even better is my mom's chicken-fried venison, with gravy and buttermilk biscuits. Best comfort food evah.

My grocery bill is higher than it has to because I try really hard to get, if not organic, at least free-range, vegetarian, antibiotic-free meat, eggs, and milk.


Trudy Booth - Aug 12, 2003 7:20:13 pm PDT #6293 of 9843
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I can't go back to non-organic milk now, and regular eggs are gross too.


bon bon - Aug 12, 2003 7:22:12 pm PDT #6294 of 9843
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

All American beef cattle are raised in feed lots, where they eat nothing but corn--

Not all, of course. Niman Ranch, for instance, is just one ranch that doesn't do it that way.


Noumenon - Aug 12, 2003 7:59:01 pm PDT #6295 of 9843
No other candidate is asking the hard questions, like "Did geophysicists assassinate Jim Henson?" or "Why is there hydrogen in America's water supply?" --defective yeti

Cows eat something besides corn, for protein. It used to be a meat and bone meal made of leftover cow, but they stopped that practice to guard against mad cow disease. Fish meal is going more to salmon farms these days, so I don't know what else they use. Maybe penguins.


brenda m - Aug 12, 2003 8:09:41 pm PDT #6296 of 9843
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

However, what really turned my stomach was the constant claim that American beef is "marbled" b/c "marbling" gives it the flavour Americans love so much. Ugh, no thanks, I'll stick to a nice lean Aussie steak.

Huh. I know of at least one of the super chi-chi steakhouses that won't use American beef because the cult of lean has sucked all the flavor out of it.

But I'm right there with you on the conditions in which it's raised. Turns your stomach, even before you consider whether there might be actual health issues there.


Emlah - Aug 12, 2003 8:57:16 pm PDT #6297 of 9843
To every idea a shelf...

Loved it.

I had thought of two directions that could have been possible fitting endings to the series. A third one hadn't occurred to me. It occurred to Joss. That's pretty much my definition of good storytelling.

Yep, this is how I feel. I adored it because it took me places I didn't expect to go. Also, it made me laugh like a loon and broke my heart into tiny tiny tiny pieces - which is what Joss does best. So just to clarify: can we talk about specifics now?

I've been consoling myself with the Buffista archives. I know it's been said before but: geez, you are an articulate, entertaining, witty bunch of people. I love reading all the praise, the nitpicks, the random memories, the theories, the fanwanks. It's like watching a very quiet, texty episode of Buffy - I giggle, I cry, I get annoyed, I nod emphatically.

Le sigh.