It's because you didn't have a strong father figure isn't it?

Joyce ,'Chosen'


All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

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amych - Jul 29, 2003 5:53:54 am PDT #5915 of 9843
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Can we say skin-tight leather catsuit without fainting?

skin-tight lea... thunk.

Nope. Guess not.


Cindy - Jul 29, 2003 6:07:10 am PDT #5916 of 9843
Nobody

skin-tight lea... thunk.

You know, I've grown more comfortable with Buffistaisms than many old Bronzisms, over time. But this one is just wrong, wrong, wrong, and I can no longer remain silent.

Thunk is the sound you make/what happens/what you do, when, out of complete frustration, you smash your head against the keyboard, or any other nearby hard object.

Thud is what happens when you talk about skin-tight lea... thud


Nutty - Jul 29, 2003 6:12:37 am PDT #5917 of 9843
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Can we say skin-tight leather catsuit without fainting?

Can we wear skin-tight leather catsuit without fainting? Or squeaking! I think that's the funniest part about leather -- the squeaking noises you make when you move.


Trudy Booth - Jul 29, 2003 6:14:58 am PDT #5918 of 9843
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

It would have been a tough shot on american televion sans bra. It's almost worth it to have a girl on top.


evil jimi - Jul 29, 2003 6:25:23 am PDT #5919 of 9843
Lurching from one disaster to the next.

It would have been a tough shot on american televion...

You Americans amaze me. You have the biggest porn industry in the world, yet nudity and profanity on TV still freaks you (that's a generic "you") out.

Australia, on the other hand, has a porn industry not worth discussing, yet full frontal female and male nudity, or the frequent use of the word "fuck", has become normal on free-to-air TV after 8:30PM.


Typo Boy - Jul 29, 2003 6:31:01 am PDT #5920 of 9843
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

We were founded by Puritans. And while there is a lot to be said in defense of Puritans on a lot of issues, when it came to sex they were pretty much as fucked up as the sterotype suggest.

Also (pure speculation) could it be that full frontal nudity on TV reduces the market for porn - maybe because for a lot of people if there is full frontal nudity, they don't need more explict shots?


Fred Pete - Jul 29, 2003 6:32:52 am PDT #5921 of 9843
Ann, that's a ferret.

You Americans amaze me.

Such is America, jimi. A weird and wonderful and terrifying place. And the public reticence on sex is probably much of the reason for the huge porn industry. Terrified of sex, and at the same time obsessed with it.


Nutty - Jul 29, 2003 6:38:57 am PDT #5922 of 9843
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

One of the funniest things about the end of the Spanish fascist state is that, to this day, porn or sexual tittilation is considered basically as a political thing. Or rather, if you have a problem with porn, you must be a fascist. I've listened to arguments of this type, although (thankfully) never participated.

I also had a teacher who confessed that even now a certain kind of scruffy, unshaven, badly-dressed guy is what turns her on, because he was the expression of all that had formerly been forbidden (and unfortunately, liberation came in the late 70s).

Personally I tend to find nudity distracting, except in such instances where its absence is distractingly implausible. Sometimes the distractingness is tittilating, but more often it's like, Okay, I cannot guess how she feels by reading the expression in her nipples, please move the camera up a tiny bit.


§ ita § - Jul 29, 2003 6:50:19 am PDT #5923 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think that's the funniest part about leather -- the squeaking noises you make when you move.

My leather doesn't squeak. I wonder what I'm doing wrong.

Must purchase tighter.


Fay - Jul 29, 2003 6:53:47 am PDT #5924 of 9843
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Personally I tend to find nudity distracting, except in such instances where its absence is distractingly implausible. Sometimes the distractingness is tittilating, but more often it's like, Okay, I cannot guess how she feels by reading the expression in her nipples, please move the camera up a tiny bit.

Fair point. I do tend to feel a pang of irritation at attacks of modesty from characters whom we're to believe have spent hours shagging like shag monsters - the modesty sheet clutched to the bosom. And the whole still-wearing-their-undies thing. But it's no more irritating than the perfect hair and makeup phenomonon. (Oh, how I loved Lilah! Because I did believe that she'd had the hot monkey sex and needed a shower, I really did. Bless her.)