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All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

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Cindy - Apr 23, 2003 5:33:11 pm PDT #4059 of 9843
Nobody

A year or two ago, Court TV was rerunning Homicide. I wonder if it's ever come on out DVD. I would buy those DVDs. Might be a good way to get over Buffy going away.


Theodosia - Apr 23, 2003 5:35:30 pm PDT #4060 of 9843
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Cindy, it's been mentioned several times on the board that Homicide is scheduled for DVDs! You must not have been in those topics those days....


Cindy - Apr 23, 2003 5:36:49 pm PDT #4061 of 9843
Nobody

Or I skipped. Or I skimmed. Or I'm incredibly forgetful. Cool, Theo. Thanks. I loved that show. The cancellation of it bred in me an irrational hatred of NBC.


Cindy - Apr 23, 2003 5:54:26 pm PDT #4062 of 9843
Nobody

cereal...

Any of our British Buffistas live in or near Sussex?


Angus G - Apr 23, 2003 10:16:19 pm PDT #4063 of 9843
Roguish Laird

Of course, I'l still waiting to see "The Bill" and it comes highly recced.

Well, I love The Bill but it's not in the same league as Cracker or Homicide. It used to be a very straightforward, utilitarian police procedural--closest US equivalent perhaps Law and Order?--but lately it's been getting more and more melodramatic (and hence more enjoyable)--closest US equivalent perhaps Melrose Place?

So it used to be a worthy but rather boring watch; these days (to the horror of many of its old fans) it's become over-the-top camp fun.


deborah grabien - Apr 23, 2003 10:20:06 pm PDT #4064 of 9843
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

it's become over-the-top camp fun.

That's the bit that was recced to me, courtesy of Roz Kaveney, who adores it. She says it has the meanest nastiest villain out there, but until she's seen H:LOTS and Luther Mahoney? Nuh-uh.

Never been a L&O fan. Far too much on the "ripped from the headlines!" thing.


§ ita § - Apr 23, 2003 10:29:08 pm PDT #4065 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I love procedurals. Kinda like melodrama too, but I adore procedurals. They never seem to last, though. Even L&O is self-infatuated.


Sean K - Apr 23, 2003 10:48:23 pm PDT #4066 of 9843
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Never been a L&O fan. Far too much on the "ripped from the headlines!" thing.

See, but they weren't always quite as bad as all that. The best episodes are the old Matt Stone (Michael Moriarty) cases.


Leigh - Apr 23, 2003 11:06:25 pm PDT #4067 of 9843
Nobody

So it used to be a worthy but rather boring watch; these days (to the horror of many of its old fans) it's become over-the-top camp fun.

I love that it has become so campy since a friend of mine who hates all things BtVS with a vocal passion has developed quite the shame complex over watching it. Personally, I find just it all too unsettling, especially when the June Ackland character (who has been an authoritative older woman figure on The Bill since as long as I can remember) is suddenly participating in a lipstick smearing makeout session atop her office-desk. Not that she doesn't have the right to have as many such sessions as she wants, but my mum also has that right and it doesn't mean I wanna see either of them getting all "tongues in new places!" on my television screen.


Noumenon - Apr 23, 2003 11:54:45 pm PDT #4068 of 9843
No other candidate is asking the hard questions, like "Did geophysicists assassinate Jim Henson?" or "Why is there hydrogen in America's water supply?" --defective yeti

This post is about Buffy 7.10, "Bring On The Night."

I liked the first part of the speech, because she was hurt and it was all about her ('cause stoic!unfeeling!Buffy is quite annoying for me), but then there was the rallying. And it just. went. on.

What kept me with it was the parallels to season five. They had said, "The First pre-dates everything we've ever known," reminding me of the line "That which cannot be named. So I'm thinking maybe she... predates language itself?" about Glory. The boarded-up windows on the house reminded me of the covered windows on the Winnebago. The whole situation recalls the despair at the end of season five and Buffy seems totally defeated again: "I'm beyond tired. I'm beyond scared," but this time she's not fleeing or going to coma. I perked up my ears for the rallying just because it wasn't what I was expecting from Buffy at that point. There was part of it that sounded like an even bigger change of direction:

They think we're gonna wait, like we always do, for the end to come but I'm done waiting. They want an apocalypse? We'll give 'em one.

I was wondering if they were going to not do the big finale with the explosions like we all expect, and instead put the First away halfway through the season, giving us time for some eps of denouement. The season seemed to be moving so fast right then.