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All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

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bon bon - Apr 23, 2003 11:26:47 am PDT #4036 of 9843
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Yeah, let me just remind myself to not get arrested in a foriegn country where I don't know my rights. Eek. (Not that I do want to get arrested in America either, but...) cause...

We're not a fun country to get arrested in as a foreign national, either. :(

I think the English promise to use what you don't say against you is also permitted in American trials, but I'm not sure. You can't use the fact that someone asked for an attorney, but if during questioning the suspect didn't mention the alibi he came up with for trial? That's probative.

meara - Apr 23, 2003 11:32:02 am PDT #4037 of 9843

We're not a fun country to get arrested in as a foreign national, either

Oh, totally...especially the past year or three. But at least here I vaguely know my rights. :)

Trudy Booth - Apr 23, 2003 12:41:18 pm PDT #4038 of 9843
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

the US has a constitution. It isn't stopping John Ashcroft, so far as i can see.

IIRC, someone has to be busted and then make a challenge on constitutional grounds before a law can be chucked for being unconstitutional.

(A little scenario the NRA delights in ignoring.)

bon bon - Apr 23, 2003 12:47:05 pm PDT #4039 of 9843
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

IIRC, someone has to be busted and then make a challenge on constitutional grounds before a law can be chucked for being unconstitutional.

Yes, American courts can only rule on Actual Cases. Other countries' courts-- including the Intl Court of Justice-- can issue advisory opinions, which don't require a case to be before it. I think this is becaue precedent is not controlling in those systems, but I'm not sure.

Daisy Jane - Apr 23, 2003 1:22:08 pm PDT #4040 of 9843
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Popping in very quickly before I have to run off to take care of crap.

Waking the Dead is good. My Tuesdays are made even better by it. But Cracker rocks my Wednesdays. I'm watching it right now AIFG!

Jim - Apr 23, 2003 1:50:05 pm PDT #4041 of 9843
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!

Really? That seems convoluted! Why?

Dear God, woman! Because! Because it's always been that way! The UK common law needs no greater reason.

Nutty - have you read the original Homicide book? There's fantastic sequence where Simon explains that there are no circumstances whatsoever where waiving your right of silence isn't a dumb-ass move.

And you're watching Cracker? Which one? It may be my favourite ever UK show. To Be a Somebody teaches you more about Britain in the '80s than any 10 history books. Plus it was an amazing school - Ecclestone, Carlisle, Morton, Boyle...

Daisy Jane - Apr 23, 2003 1:52:07 pm PDT #4042 of 9843
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

There were 2 on. The first one was the one where the murderess is trying to get to Fitz and has his son. The second one was was "The mad woman in the attic" which seems to be the first ep.

Jim - Apr 23, 2003 1:56:04 pm PDT #4043 of 9843
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!

OK, the first one is actually the last one (we don't talk about the ddgy Hong Kong one-off - no Panhandle!). Still great. But it's the second season and the first half of S3, with the whole Beck/Penhaligon arc, that's absolutely brilliant.

Daisy Jane - Apr 23, 2003 2:02:03 pm PDT #4044 of 9843
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

So the second one they aired was the very first episode?

If so, I may never be able to leave my house between 1 and 3 again.

Nutty - Apr 23, 2003 2:16:29 pm PDT #4045 of 9843
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Oh! I remember Cracker -- it aired here on A & E, and then there was a pale USian copy that flunked out on a big network. The original with Robbie Coltrane was so much better.

Nutty - have you read the original Homicide book?

Have I read? My fandom goes both deep and wide. It's an entertaining book, and a little creepy to read if you pick it up after having seen and known the TV series for years.

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