it's what for some reason I imagine publicity for American PBS being like.

Actually there are some really good commercials for it. People using stuff they learned on the programs, like the little girl who gets up at 4, sneaks out to the barn with a lantern and makes the cock crow to the artificial daylight.

There was another a year or so ago with a girl on a frillly canopy bed who's going into this whole psuedo-literary romance rant about how she can't see some guy because she wants more, then cut to her little brother who's all. "So you want me to tell him what?" with an eyeroll.

John, the site certainly focuses on the news aspect. If I hadn't paid attention to the what the title said, I would have not known it.

Can you give me a rundown of the other broadcast networks in Australia?

Thanks Fiona!

Can you give me a rundown of the other broadcast networks in Australia?

Well I could but it would only throw our problem into more stark relief.

The problem with Where I Work (by the way, I didn't wait for Plasmo's permission, but Plasmo's real name is not, you'll be shocked to learn, Plasmo, whereas mine really is John H[something] so I'm identifiable and she's not) is that we do so much.

I could show you the website of Channel Ten or Seven, but they just do TV, so their website doesn't have the category problem we have. I could show you the website of radio station 2UE or 2GB, who compete with our Sydney station 2BL, but they just do radio, so, same problem.

We have a TV channel, we have five national radio networks, an international radio network, seven Capital City radio stations, fifty regional and rural radio stations, shops, symphony orchestras, I could go on.

So the main question is, how the hell do you convey that depth and complication on one page? What is it the front page of, exactly -- is it the front page of the website, just one of the many things we provide, or is it the front page of the organisation as a whole?

Currently the review of the front page is in the hands of a guy who would always choose to write "re-incentivise the intra-contextual information space in a temporal re-iteration of navigational potentials" instead of "change the links more often".

Has anyone read Jakob Nielsen's book about How To Build Your Front Page?

One very solid recommendation is that you explain what your organisation does, in one simple sentence -- "eBay -- the world's online marketplace" for instance. If it's impossible to do that, does it imply that you need to have multiple front pages for the many things you do?

It's not like I wake up at night worrying about these questions at all...

So the main question is, how the hell do you convey that depth and complication on one page?

You don't. You boil it down to a single concept. Try to find the essence of it.

Let me rephrase

What are your national broadcasting competitors? TV and radio networks and what, if any, specialtlies do they have?

LMAO at the turn this thread has taken! My hard drive crashed on the weekend, so I've been dark even though I did get a replacement within a few hours *hugs* to techie friends.

"loads of info on your favourite shows"

It is a bit disappointing Angus G.. I think most of our problems come down to $. I mean, it sounds like someone said "let's make an ad we could feasibly use forever"!

you guys probably want to strangle the eight cents a day person

Actually the graphic designer who did some of the tubular bells style logos for tv, but got the lissajous form wrong, is the one who gets to me.

but Plasmo's real name is not, you'll be shocked to learn, Plasmo,

My boy calls me plasmotis sometimes.. does that count? I taught a security subject for a while and occasionally my paranoia gets the better of me, which is why I go by plasmo, though it's really not hard to find out who I am "with a little help from my google". Everything you say is fine with me John H.

Has anyone read Jakob Nielsen's book about How To Build Your Front Page?

How rich is this man exactly? Because with a book about just the front page.. there are endless sequels to be written. I can't wait for "why sitemaps are bad".

Why *are* sitemaps bad, plasmo?

t attentive

though it's really not hard to find out who I am "with a little help from my google".

I usually like to get to know folks first before I show them my google.

Or as Spike would say, your googlies.

Ok more of a feel for things. ABC is a public media empire. TV, radio, Internet , live performances. I presume the stores sell ABC related merchandise (related to shows, and symphony halls and such.)

The site seems more like MSN than a news site, with a whole bunch of different themed content areas (except transcripts seem to outweigh articles). New slogan: Where do you want to go today... mate?