Now we're saving a vampire from vampires. I got two words for that -- Nuh and uh.

Gunn ,'Underneath'


All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

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Fiona - Apr 01, 2003 3:25:39 am PST #2831 of 9843

Yes, but law adheres to sovereignty, sovereignty does not adhere to law. It's a fine point but still hold within Euope.

I think you may be confusing the person with the post. The person of the Queen has some German ancestry (as well as French ancestry, Dutch ancestry, a Greek husband, etc. etc.). "The sovereign" (Rex/Regina) as used in law is by definition not subject to the considerations of ordinary people, such as what nationality granny was.

On edit: my "It's The Law" was a joke, btw, but the point stands.


Zoe Finch - Apr 01, 2003 3:27:18 am PST #2832 of 9843
Gradh tu fhein

I think you may be confusing the person with the post.

Possibly. I always considered the two to be one and the same.

It's not really legal influence I was thinking of, more, personal influence. With the Dutch and the Greek too. Embracing the Euro-ness of the Queen within the EU could be good. There are other European monarchs in the Nederlands I know for sure and others too but none are as world renouned as the Queen of England.
On a separate personal issue I would like to have a real British monarch but that's just wishful thinking.

Edit: Blackadder the Second is so so so much funnier than Blackadder the Third.


Kate P. - Apr 01, 2003 4:06:52 am PST #2833 of 9843
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

And KateP will have seem all manner of wildly different places too in her travels lately. But you have to go a bloody long way to find somewhere that Coca Cola (and other icons of Americana) hasn't reached.

I haven't found anywhere yet where I couldn't get a Coke. In fact, it's often much easier to get a Coke than to get clean water. That feels a bit like stating the very obvious, but it's a sobering thought nonetheless!


Dai Watkins - Apr 01, 2003 4:21:33 am PST #2834 of 9843

Going back a bit, an interesting consequence of Britain's historic connection with Hanover was that in WW1 British and Hanoverian troops sometimes fought each other under regimental standards which commemorated their joint participation in the defense of Gibraltar against the French and Spanish (1778-1783). (When Bismark unified Germany in 1871 he let the Hanoverian regiments, now incorporated in the German army, retain their battle honours).

When the Kaiser heard in 1915 that his cousin George II had changed the British royal family's name to Windsor, he made one of his jokes: "I can't wait for the next performance of 'The Merry Wives of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha'".


Caroma - Apr 01, 2003 4:38:32 am PST #2835 of 9843
Hello! I must be going.

Good article in the International Herald - Tribune.

And Heather, since it reports that only 53% of the French want the Coalition to win the war, your friend may have some 'splanin to do to more than just "cowboys".

Meaning, of course they can have their opinions and all that, but they may want to think them through a little more carefully now. People that I know who are pro-war are beginning to watch enough coverage that they know why the French feel the way they do and they don't mind as much because a) they don't expect anything else and b) democracies can disagree on things and still be friends.

But if the "Axis of Weasels" (snerk) gets a rep as being not only opposed to the war but actively rooting for Saddam's regime to continue, that won't help its cause at all. A lot of their moral force has come from the idea that being anti-war doesn't mean they support Saddam. If they start openly supporting him in a fit of anti-Americanism, they'll lose it.

BTW, when the hell did "cowboy" become a synonym for homicidal tactless maniac? Sheesh.

Off to work, see you in twelve hours!


Jim - Apr 01, 2003 4:54:44 am PST #2836 of 9843
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!

Zoe Finch - Apr 01, 2003 4:57:29 am PST #2837 of 9843
Gradh tu fhein

Jim beware your tone.


Zoe Finch - Apr 01, 2003 5:07:08 am PST #2838 of 9843
Gradh tu fhein

the various friendly fire deaths of UK troops,

Is a real issue here.

Edit: WF current Angel spoilery.* It is an issue we could address/ is being addressed in the Angel thread re: Cordy/ Gunn character assassination and Cordy under fire at the close of current episode.*

Please forgive. The issue is being addressed.


Kate P. - Apr 01, 2003 5:17:49 am PST #2839 of 9843
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

And, incidentally, screw you.

Jim, there's really no call to be rude. Please.


Dai Watkins - Apr 01, 2003 5:53:08 am PST #2840 of 9843

Look, there are thousands of places on the net to debate the Iraq war. I've used them myself, quite a lot. Everyone, please leave the Buffistas forum to us silly but amiable geeks.