Hey, Zoe, why don't you watch your attitude there? There's no call to be rude.
Riley: Oh, yeah. Sorry 'bout last time. Heard I missed out on some fun. Xander: Oh yeah, fun was had. Also frolic, merriment and near-death hijinks.
'Never Leave Me'
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Dana - Mar 31, 2003 10:07:11 am PST #2736 of 9843
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
Betsy HP - Mar 31, 2003 10:17:14 am PST #2737 of 9843
If I only had a brain...
What Dana Said.
As for the Royal family you might want to consider your advantage before rubbishing an issue of sovereignty (the cedeing of).
Could you explain this sentence? I'm not sure what it means.
moonlit - Mar 31, 2003 10:24:13 am PST #2738 of 9843
"When the world's run by fools it's the duty of intelligence to disobey." Martin Firrell
moonlit ... wow, like so many others here, you're scary. :)
Evil Jimi, No social life to speak of.
Daisy Jane - Mar 31, 2003 11:44:03 am PST #2739 of 9843
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."
Neither of those were me moonlit. I think Penny has the brother in Russia, and I'm not sure who the other was, but I agree with them.
Zoe Finch - Mar 31, 2003 11:44:09 am PST #2740 of 9843
Gradh tu fhein
As for the Royal family you might want to consider your advantage before rubbishing an issue of sovereignty (the cedeing of).
Could you explain this sentence? I'm not sure what it means.
Historically sovereignty of a nation is bestowed upon and symbolically dwells within the person of the monarch -constitutional or not. The cedeing of sovereignty is when the central power of a nation or region is passed through the monarch to a different nation. When the British monarchy was replaced by a German one (see protestantism v catholicism + Union of the Nations (re:Scotland and England = UK)) sovereignty of BRITAIN got ceded right along with it (-see also Jacobites, clearances American and Australian colonisation).
Advantage: given the unification of Europe and the influence of the British monarchy England is in a position of advantage within Europe. If he'd get down of his high horse for just one minute and take a look.
Dana - Mar 31, 2003 11:50:32 am PST #2741 of 9843
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
If he'd get down of his high horse for just one minute and take a look.
Okay, three posts ago, didn't I mention something about your attitude?
Seriously. Can it.
moonlit - Mar 31, 2003 12:11:50 pm PST #2742 of 9843
"When the world's run by fools it's the duty of intelligence to disobey." Martin Firrell
Heather it was Brenda, thanks for pointing it out, it's fixed now.
Betsy HP - Mar 31, 2003 12:14:33 pm PST #2743 of 9843
If I only had a brain...
The cedeing of sovereignty is when the central power of a nation or region is passed through the monarch to a different nation. When the British monarchy was replaced by a German one (see protestantism v catholicism + Union of the Nations (re:Scotland and England = UK)) sovereignty of BRITAIN got ceded right along with it (-see also Jacobites, clearances American and Australian colonisation).
I think you have misunderstood. When George I got handed the throne, there *was* no Germany. Just lots of itty bitty German-speaking states. Prussia, Hanover, like that. The king of *one* German state, Hanover, became also the king of England, Scotland, &c. And, like James I before him, he was independently King of two different countries: England and Scotland in James's case, England and Hanover in George's case. (Okay, England, Scotland, Hanover. My bad.) When Great Britain was unified, Hanover was *not* included in the unification. And when William was succeeded by his niece, Victoria, the Hanoverian throne became separated from the British throne, because Hanover followed Salic laws and could not have a sovereign Queen.
Germany has never ruled Great Britain. People of German descent have ruled Great Britain. There's a difference. The nation of Germany didn't exist until long after the nation of Great Britain did.
Zoe Finch - Mar 31, 2003 2:50:34 pm PST #2744 of 9843
Gradh tu fhein
Sovereignty is one of the *magical* concepts we play around with.
Zoe Finch - Mar 31, 2003 2:51:52 pm PST #2745 of 9843
Gradh tu fhein
When George I got handed the throne, there *was* no Germany. Just lots of itty bitty German-speaking states. Prussia, Hanover, like that. The king of *one* German state, Hanover, became also the king of England, Scotland, &c. And, like James I before him, he was independently King of two different countries: England and Scotland in James's case, England and Hanover in George's case. (Okay, England, Scotland, Hanover. My bad.) When Great Britain was unified, Hanover was *not* included in the unification. And when William was succeeded by his niece, Victoria, the Hanoverian throne became separated from the British throne, because Hanover followed Salic laws and could not have a sovereign Queen.
Granny, first you have to make an itty bitty hole...
I know all this.