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Whoa, remember I was the one who blew the whistle on them over in Natter to begin with. Of course they're being "selfish"--it's called trying to make money for their workers and shareholders.
No, it doesn't make them look good. But it's still true that a) not many companies can do what they do and b) Cheney has been totally out of the company since 2001. He still knows people there, sure, but what can be done about that? Should the whole upper echelon resign because one of their own became VP?
Not many... how many? what precluded them? why is halliburton the best choice? That's only 2 years. The connections are still there. Why is it okay to be included with connections, but not okay to exclude because of same connections?
And now I'm feeling like I've just colonized the Unamerican thread for my own purposes.
sorry.
Caroma, the assertion is that Cheny's setting up his friends to make a bundle by dragging us into an ill-advised war. Then he himself will make a bundle down the line in return.
It's not a matter of how things "look". It's a matter of engineering politics for massive financial gain.
A good friend is an International Economist (Rhodes scholar and smartest person I know) and he's concerned (along with his friends in that community) because U.S. business concerns have an abysmal track record in nation-building, and yet those with real experience, such as NGOs, are not part of the Bush Administration's planning for post-war Iraq.
Well, exactly. Most of our Congress came from the private sector, and that's what we want, instead of the professional polticians. And as more and more rich guys like Bloomberg get into politics, it's going to get stickier and stickier. The ties will just multiply. And what if you're part of the company and you resign to take public office, and then your old company takes over a bunch of others. Do you recuse yourself from legislation affecting all of them?
The NGO's will come in later, I thought.
Caroma, the assertion is that he gained power and dragged us into war in order to make a fortune.
Most of our Congress came from the private sector, and that's what we want, instead of the professional polticians.
Okay, after I get over my amusement at the idea that Cheney isn't a "professional politician," whatever the fuck that means, can I just say that not everyone you have grouped under that "we" buys into the bullshit that politicians don't belong in politics.
Fayjay, I won't have time to post much for the next few weeks. Until then, you officially speak for me, only much more concisely..
Later? Don't you think it's awfully short-sighted not to include those with the most experience on the ground in planning for such a major event? We've seen how difficult large scale transport is there. Planning where resources go and timetables and all those things needs to be happening now. And if it is--they haven't been consulted.