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'Heart Of Gold'


All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

Discussion of episodes currently airing in Un-American locations (anything that's aired in Australia is fair game), as well as anything else the Un-Americans feel like talking about or we feel like asking them. Please use the show discussion threads for any current-season discussion.

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moonlit - Feb 27, 2003 5:04:01 pm PST #2343 of 9843
"When the world's run by fools it's the duty of intelligence to disobey." Martin Firrell

The first thing to disappear from Australian playgrounds were maypoles, then see-saws, then those metal roundabout thingies that you could get underneath and lie on your back so that you could use your legs and feet to make it spin really fast, thereby (in theory anyway) throwing the other kids off. Ummmm I wonder if that is why they were removed.


DXMachina - Feb 27, 2003 5:29:32 pm PST #2344 of 9843
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

There's a fairly newish playground near me that has seesaws. Even has monkey bars.


Hil R. - Feb 27, 2003 5:45:02 pm PST #2345 of 9843
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

those metal roundabout thingies that you could get underneath and lie on your back so that you could use your legs and feet to make it spin really fast, thereby (in theory anyway) throwing the other kids off. Ummmm I wonder if that is why they were removed.

Actually, the reason I've always heard for those being removed or modified is kids getting underneath and then getting hit on the head while it was spinning.


Burrell - Feb 27, 2003 6:03:12 pm PST #2346 of 9843
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

They have a wonderful playground in the middle of downtown San Francisco. It's all foamy, don't-hurt-if-you-fall-on-it & it has fun, windy slides and sand for making messes. We took the niece and nephew there & had a ball.


Caroma - Feb 27, 2003 6:11:28 pm PST #2347 of 9843
Hello! I must be going.

Wow, look what I started!

OK, Red Rover everybody seems to know about. Same with dodgeball, although we never played "prison ball". Old school, no gym. We were playing in the lobby with the building's support pillars wrapped in exercise mats because we always slammed into them. But outside we had a nice big yard with asphalt and absolutely Nothing To Do--no equipment, not even a basketball hoop. So the boys brought baseball stuff and the girls played jumprope. Anybody else have double dutch? It's sort of dancing in and out of two ropes. We also had zillions of different chants for them but that's another thread--Miss Lucy and her steamboat and how much blood would come out of various dead animals are two of them.

Stoopball was a New York thing, although I guess you could do it in Baltimore or something. You had to throw your pink Spaulding (spal-deen) ball against a stoop and make it bounce a certain number of times. You could also take a jumprope and have someone stand in the middle of the street (these were 1-2 lane streets, mostly houses but not suburbia) and whip it around so people had to jump over it.

If we were stuck indoors, we would play Ship, Shore, Wave. One side of the room was a ship, the other side the wave, and one person yelled what side to go to and everybody ran like hell towards it. Of course, they'd change the side halfway over and everybody would skid to a halt like Daffy Duck and then crash into the slower ones still coming the wrong way. If the kid yelled "Wave!" you had to hit the floor. Lots of elbow and knee contact in that one.

In the summer we went out after dinner, too, and caught fireflies and went to the playground, which had heavy metal swings, old wooden seesaws, metal slides, and a sandbox that even in the 70's you avoided. Not because of needles, but because that was before Mayor Koch's leash laws. There's still a classic one left in the park in Sutton Place, of all places.


Caroma - Feb 27, 2003 7:41:19 pm PST #2348 of 9843
Hello! I must be going.

Wow, my boring childhood killed the thread!


Hil R. - Feb 27, 2003 8:03:39 pm PST #2349 of 9843
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

We tried to do double dutch, because we'd seen people doing it on TV, but we weren't able to do it. The ropes would always get twisted in each other.

I thought that, in general, the games we invented ourselves were much more fun than the ones we played in gym. In gym, the rules were always that the same rules applied to everyone. When we played by ourselves, we made the rules that seemed fair to us, which usually gave little kids or kids with physical problems more advantages, and gave older, faster kids handicaps. The games would have gotten boring really quickly if the same kids one all the time, and our sense of fairness wouldn't let the same rules apply to people who obviously weren't the same. (Of course, this was a self-selecting group of kids. We all pretty much agreed on everything because we wanted to play together. We wouldn't have given anything to a kid we didn't want to play with us.)


askye - Feb 27, 2003 8:04:49 pm PST #2350 of 9843
Thrive to spite them

I can't remember what I played in school--I sucked at games like 4 sq and dodge ball. There was hopscotch and jumprope (which I also sucked at).

However things were better at the beach with my cousins, it's a bay so the waves aren't bad and there's never a riptide plus it's semi private so we could run allover the place unsupervised. 4 boys and me. We had this 2 man (adult) inflatable boat and the five of us would push it out into deeper water and then jump off oc it. One game was called (for reasons lost in time) "I Discovered America. We'd each have a turn at the bow of the boat and then leap into the air and try to do some crazy kind of jump/non dive (it was too shallow) and yell "I discovered America!" and try for a big splash. Then you climbed back in the boat and tried again.

At lowtide there were mud wars, where we made mud balls and slung them at each other.

Also at high tide when we were playing in the water we had to be careful for horseflies. These are big, nasty flies that sting. So whenever any of us saw one we'd yell "Horsefly!" and then we'd all duck under the water and try to stay under until it left. Then it just turned into a game where we'd be playing and someone would randomly yell out "horsefly" and we'd all have to duck under the water.

You know, that sounds kind of boring. There was also lots of adventuring around and when it rained we played Monoply or read comic books.


Angus G - Feb 27, 2003 9:31:29 pm PST #2351 of 9843
Roguish Laird

Wow, my boring childhood killed the thread!

On the contrary Caroma, I love reading your stuff when you go into nostalgia mode.

Private message to Jim: I was only half-kidding the other day when I said I wanted a place to backchannel about UK TT! (There is one, I know, but I've had all kinds of trouble getting my account validated there.) Anyway, I'm absolutely burning with curiosity about something--I'm sure you can guess what--even though I know it's absolutely none of my business...


Noumenon - Feb 27, 2003 11:32:59 pm PST #2352 of 9843
No other candidate is asking the hard questions, like "Did geophysicists assassinate Jim Henson?" or "Why is there hydrogen in America's water supply?" --defective yeti

Ship, Shore, Wave sounds like the funnest game so far. I had to look up the word "stoop," though, making me feel quite stoopid. askye's play also sounds like the most fun. I think I have nostalgia for the attitude that lets you get absorbed in simple activities like that. Like how I used to have so much fun making little canals between the puddles that formed in tractor tire tracks.