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All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

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DXMachina - Feb 27, 2003 6:37:43 am PST #2239 of 9843
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

This was in my local paper a few weeks ago. Hands up billytea, Angus if any resonates with you.

It certainly resonates with me. The only thing I disagree with:

* we played footy down at the park and not everyone got picked to play. Those who didn't had to learn to deal with disappointment;

We didn't have enough people to turn anyone away. Plus, we weren't quite that mean.

I would love to be able to play dodge ball again.

* we would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as we were back before dinner.

Yup!


Angus G - Feb 27, 2003 6:42:00 am PST #2240 of 9843
Roguish Laird

We didn't have enough people to turn anyone away.

Yes, but somebody always got picked last (e.g. me).

I'm sure that was all very character building, but I'm not sure I'd inflict it on a child today!

But all the drinking from a hose, playing outdoors, not being entirely protected from the world at large stuff, absolutely.


Jim - Feb 27, 2003 6:46:06 am PST #2241 of 9843
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!

Um - the UK thing is exxagerated. There is a fear of crime, but my 8-yr-old nephew is out all day every day. And my Niece, who lives in Soham where there was a particularly brutal double childmurder ast summer,plays on her own as much as I did at 4. Don't confuse the fear-mongering of the Daily Mail with real life - we don't all hate asylum seekers, either.


Fiona - Feb 27, 2003 6:52:36 am PST #2242 of 9843

we had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, doors, or cabinets, and when we rode our bikes, we wore no helmets;

You forgot, "We had no child seats in our cars; in fact, we sat on the armrest that folded down in the middle of the back seat, thus giving us unimpeded flight into the front windscreen in event of an accident."


Fay - Feb 27, 2003 6:56:11 am PST #2243 of 9843
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

the equipment seems really expensive and the pace very slow.

I know very very very little about cricket, but the equipment's pretty straight forward, isn't it? For kids to play, I mean? I know you need slightly more than you'd use for rounders, but not much. Certainly compared to X Boxes and all that stuff, anyway.


DXMachina - Feb 27, 2003 6:56:44 am PST #2244 of 9843
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Um - the UK thing is exxagerated.

The paranoia definitely exists here, at least out in suburbia. You don't see kids playing baseball anymore unless they're wearing uniforms. I have had arguments about it with the wife of one of my best friends. She is adamant about not letting her kids out unsupervised.


Fiona - Feb 27, 2003 7:02:00 am PST #2245 of 9843

Yes, but somebody always got picked last (e.g. me).

Ooo, me too, Angus! In fact, most of my best friends were similarly traumatised as kids.


moonlit - Feb 27, 2003 7:07:00 am PST #2246 of 9843
"When the world's run by fools it's the duty of intelligence to disobey." Martin Firrell

Ditto on seatbelts too Fiona, they came in as an 'option' or 'add-on' in Australia in the mid to late 60's. In 'sports-mad' Australia, the 'being picked last' thing certainly felt like a hangable offence at times.

Edited to make sense.


Anne W. - Feb 27, 2003 7:11:22 am PST #2247 of 9843
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

You forgot, "We had no child seats in our cars; in fact, we sat on the armrest that folded down in the middle of the back seat, thus giving us unimpeded flight into the front windscreen in event of an accident."

I remember going on long road trips with my best friend's family. The seats in the station wagon folded down so that the entire back became this holding pen where we kids could rattle around, play games, get in fights, take naps, and so on. So much more fun than being strapped into individual seats in a minivan while watching a video with the sound piped in through headsets.

One of the things I love about my neighborhood is that the kids do go out and play in the streets and alleys after school. Usually one or two adults will be out sitting on the stoop or lounging in the back yard, keeping an eye on things.


Sophia Brooks - Feb 27, 2003 7:12:32 am PST #2248 of 9843
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I agree with DX-- I don't think kids are allowed outside unsupervised until they are 14 or so, at least in middle income areas.