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All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

Discussion of episodes currently airing in Un-American locations (anything that's aired in Australia is fair game), as well as anything else the Un-Americans feel like talking about or we feel like asking them. Please use the show discussion threads for any current-season discussion.

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DavidS - Feb 26, 2003 10:26:55 pm PST #2211 of 9843
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

A long time ago I read an interview with Jackson Browne talking about the drawn-out "R" in the California accent. He pointed to the Beach Boys "California Girls" as an example: "Well East Coat gurrrrrlls are hip..." etc.


Hil R. - Feb 26, 2003 10:27:27 pm PST #2212 of 9843
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

A lot of fake American accents sound way too flat to my ear. Also, a lot of people seem to be trying for "standard American" and end up with some weird amalgamation of regional accents that sounds nothing like how anyone actually talks. (I just saw some example of this that was really annoying me, but now I can't remember where.)


DavidS - Feb 26, 2003 10:29:14 pm PST #2213 of 9843
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Also, a lot of people seem to be trying for "standard American" and end up with some weird amalgamation of regional accents that sounds nothing like how anyone actually talks.

Gary Oldman has said the key is to go for the regional accent since there is not a generic American accent. (Though there's the National TV News Midwestern Accent which might be comparable to BBC English.)


§ ita § - Feb 26, 2003 10:30:14 pm PST #2214 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'd love to hear a good non-comedic, non-Quebecois Canadian impression. I don't know that I ever have.


P.M. Marc - Feb 26, 2003 10:31:58 pm PST #2215 of 9843
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I'd love to hear a good non-comedic, non-Quebecois Canadian impression. I don't know that I ever have.

Hrrm. Which coast?


§ ita § - Feb 26, 2003 10:33:45 pm PST #2216 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Hrrm. Which coast?

Either. Or inbetween. Mostly I've heard might-as-well-be Midwestern accents, and that's passing, but not an impression.


P.M. Marc - Feb 26, 2003 10:41:05 pm PST #2217 of 9843
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Either. Or inbetween. Mostly I've heard might-as-well-be Midwestern accents, and that's passing, but not an impression.

Huh.

Close as I've come to hearing one would be either parent after they've been back up, but that's not an impression, that's just backsliding.

I think people concentrate on the About and out and eh?, and miss the essentials like Pasta and Mazda.


Caroma - Feb 26, 2003 10:44:57 pm PST #2218 of 9843
Hello! I must be going.

I think I speak for most Americans when I say that I wouldn't know if somebody was imitating a Canadian unless I know that they are. However, if I'm listening to a Canadian I can tell after a while. To me most of them sound a little Scottish.


billytea - Feb 26, 2003 11:15:33 pm PST #2219 of 9843
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

I think I speak for most Americans when I say that I wouldn't know if somebody was imitating a Canadian unless I know that they are. However, if I'm listening to a Canadian I can tell after a while. To me most of them sound a little Scottish.

I find a remarkable number of Americans can't distinguish between British and Australian accents (anything less broad than Steve Irwin's, at least). I've had Americans listen to me and Dave the office Brit carry on a whole conversation, and still be unable to hear a difference.

We actually find that African-Americans have better success on average in picking our accents. Not sure why that should be.


Susan W. - Feb 26, 2003 11:16:25 pm PST #2220 of 9843
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I haven't heard anyone speak like JM here yet. Perhaps I haven't been close enough to Modesto.

My SIL is from Modesto, and she does have an unusual accent. I haven't noticed her R's so much as a tendency to sound almost Canadian on her oh's and ooh's, but really nasal on other vowels.