I've really got to learn to just do the damage and get out of town. It's the 'stay and gloat' that gets me every time.

Ethan Rayne ,'Potential'


All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

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Am-Chau Yarkona - Feb 18, 2003 9:16:03 am PST #2020 of 9843
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

I didn't notice anything about the pacing, which normally means that it's good; the charactrization seemed fine, good even; and being bored with Spike is as completely alien to me as not liking elves. But YepisodeMV. And I should note that I'm basically pro-B/S. Though not 'Spuffy', heaven help us.


Angus G - Feb 18, 2003 9:18:52 am PST #2021 of 9843
Roguish Laird

Am-Chau, take note:

I agree with you.


Kate P. - Feb 18, 2003 9:20:38 am PST #2022 of 9843
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

Huh, I thought the pacing in "Beneath Me" was better than in many of last season's eps. It all felt right to me, although the Willow&Giles scene did seem a bit out of place, if only because it was the only non-Sunnydale scene. I'm very much looking forward to Willow's return, by the way.


Am-Chau Yarkona - Feb 18, 2003 9:21:22 am PST #2023 of 9843
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

Angus, I've bookmarked your post. I'll remember it this time, I promise you.


Kate P. - Feb 18, 2003 9:22:09 am PST #2024 of 9843
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

Oh, and I no longer count myself as a Buffy/Spike 'shipper, but I'm fascinated with what's going on with Spike right now, and so I was totally sucked in by that last scene (distraction from being spoiled aside, did I mention I'm bitter about that?).


Am-Chau Yarkona - Feb 18, 2003 9:24:31 am PST #2025 of 9843
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

Spike's current journey is fanscinating- and, despite what some people would say, I think the things (there are bound to be some, right?) that happen to him because he has a soul will be more, not less, intresting because we have Angel to compare to.


Angus G - Feb 18, 2003 9:24:39 am PST #2026 of 9843
Roguish Laird

I must admit I didn't think it was a particularly good episode until the final scene. (Come to think of it, I thought the same about last week's.) But Spike's "Can we rest now...can we rest...". Shivers. Still.


Am-Chau Yarkona - Feb 18, 2003 9:25:44 am PST #2027 of 9843
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

Spike's "Can we rest now...can we rest...".

Teary now. I can still hear his voice in my head.

(That sounds creepy, doesn't it?)


Nutty - Feb 18, 2003 9:26:36 am PST #2028 of 9843
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Children's song? Never heard of it. Enlighten me?

"With a roly-poly gammon and spinach, heigh-ho for Mister Rowley"

I think it's about a frog named Rowley trying to woo, um, Miss Mouse? Anyway, the cat eats them both up at the end. In grand English tradition, it will turn out to be allegorical for Oliver Cromwell, or something.


Kate P. - Feb 18, 2003 9:29:36 am PST #2029 of 9843
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

I liked it a lot, all the way through. The beginning, with that girl in Frankfurt--cool! I'm very interested to see where that's going. Then I liked Buffy/Dawn interaction (is there a better way to do that without the slash? 'cause, ugh), and Buffy/Dawn/Xander (ack!) were very cute, and Spike was great, and I loved how it all came together, with Anya, and then the scene when Spike stabs Ronnie and is horrified... um, yeah, I really liked this episode. Can I watch it again now?