The claim I heard was that "The Ukraine" makes it sound like a colony rather than a free and independent nation. Same for "The Congo".
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Betsy HP - Feb 06, 2003 11:46:04 am PST #1811 of 9843
If I only had a brain...
Penny B. - Feb 06, 2003 12:30:45 pm PST #1812 of 9843
Nobody
Hmmmm. Same kind of controversy over "Yukon" versus "the Yukon."
Noumenon - Feb 06, 2003 12:34:38 pm PST #1813 of 9843
No other candidate is asking the hard questions, like "Did geophysicists assassinate Jim Henson?" or "Why is there hydrogen in America's water supply?" --defective yeti
"The Ukraine" makes it sound like a colony rather than a free and independent nation
Of course, the fact that the word "Ukraine" means "borderland" means the definite article is the least of their problems.
billytea - Feb 06, 2003 1:01:31 pm PST #1814 of 9843
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.
Of course, the fact that the word "Ukraine" means "borderland" means the definite article is the least of their problems.
I've often thought that there should be a single word in Russian (and, for that matter, Ukrainian) that means "Oh crap, here they come again".
bon bon - Feb 06, 2003 1:49:14 pm PST #1815 of 9843
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.
I've often thought that there should be a single word in Russian (and, for that matter, Ukrainian) that means "Oh crap, here they come again".
"Poland."
Karl - Feb 06, 2003 2:29:03 pm PST #1816 of 9843
I adore all you motherfuckers so much -- PMM.
The fact that neither Russian nor Ukranian has a definite article makes the whole debate rather ... errr ... outward-looking.
Jim - Feb 07, 2003 3:47:47 am PST #1817 of 9843
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!
The Congo problem is exacerbated by the fact that (IIRC) the Republic of Congo isn't the same as the old Belgian Congo which is now the Central African Republic or something. Penny knows, because she has to update all the labels whenever a country changes its name.
Angus G - Feb 07, 2003 4:31:34 am PST #1818 of 9843
Roguish Laird
I'm pretty sure there are currently two countries called Congo.
Zoe Finch - Feb 07, 2003 5:11:26 am PST #1819 of 9843
Gradh tu fhein
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Angus G - Feb 07, 2003 5:19:00 am PST #1820 of 9843
Roguish Laird
Here we are, courtesy of the CIA. (I rather love the fact that they were the first Google result!)
Democractic Republic of the Congo (formerly Zaire, formerly Belgian Congo, etc etc)