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All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

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Zoe Finch - Feb 04, 2003 9:26:57 am PST #1737 of 9843
Gradh tu fhein

what's a Dundonian? Does that mean from Dundalk? (Which, okay, is a city in Maryland, but I'm sure also a city in Scotland, considering like 3/4 of city names in Maryland are also cities in Scotland?)

Dundonians come from up the road in Dundee.

Edit: extra info inf you like: Dun: means old fortess and Dee is the name of a river, hence Dun Dee means the castle on the river Dee.

I am from Dun Ferme Lynne (Dunfermline), tower on the winding burn/stream.


billytea - Feb 04, 2003 9:32:12 am PST #1738 of 9843
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

billytea ... there's also the theory that the term "Pom" sprang from the acronym, "PHOM" or "Prisoner of His Majesty". Not sure what the status is on that theory.

Yes, there is. It is a possibility, but I think the immigrant connection is considered better supported.

There are a number of other theories too, but they become increasingly fanciful. Much safer bet to stick with criminals and fruits.


§ ita § - Feb 04, 2003 9:33:31 am PST #1739 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

So that means the pom/pomme de terre/potato connection is spurious? It's what I was told.


evil jimi - Feb 04, 2003 9:33:46 am PST #1740 of 9843
Lurching from one disaster to the next.

Much safer bet to stick with criminals and fruits.

Yeah because we know how fruity criminals can become over time.


Betsy HP - Feb 04, 2003 9:36:13 am PST #1741 of 9843
If I only had a brain...

An Irish friend of mine claims the plural of "grouse" is "grice". Is she pulling my leg?


Nutty - Feb 04, 2003 9:36:13 am PST #1742 of 9843
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

On the pomme de terre front, aside from good Cheech & Chong puns, what is the point of calling a potato an apple-of-earth? Did teh guy who coined that name ever even look at a potato? Potatoes look nothing like apples, taste nothing like apples, and you don't hear about potato cobbler or apple chowder.

Is this a French thing I don't understand?


Jess M. - Feb 04, 2003 9:36:18 am PST #1743 of 9843
Let me just say that popularity with people on public transportation does not equal literary respect. --Jesse

Likely not the place for this question, but it's about an accent, so maybe somewhat appropriate....did anyone see last night's CSI:Miami? What accent was the cop sporting?


Jim - Feb 04, 2003 9:37:04 am PST #1744 of 9843
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!

See above re- fruity criminals. More transported for buggery than sedition...


billytea - Feb 04, 2003 9:38:40 am PST #1745 of 9843
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

So that means the pom/pomme de terre/potato connection is spurious? It's what I was told.

Yeah, that one's pretty unlikely. The connection was supposedly that British soldiers in WWI ate a lot of potatoes, but 'pom' was probably already in use by then (M-W dates it at 1912, which to me seems a little hopeful in its precision). There are also theories that it was an acronym for Port Of Melbourne, or Permit Of Migration, or had something to do with Portsmouth. I believe the pomegranate deal is now pretty widely accepted among etymologists.


evil jimi - Feb 04, 2003 9:39:52 am PST #1746 of 9843
Lurching from one disaster to the next.

yeah and we all know how fruity etymologists ... never mind