Gunn: Well, how horrible is this thing? Lorne: I haven't read the Book of Revelations lately, but if I was searching for adjectives, I'd probably start there.

'Hell Bound'


All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

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Betsy HP - Feb 02, 2003 6:47:13 pm PST #1493 of 9843
If I only had a brain...

And beer, too. I really think the Irish should sue for defamation.


Sophia Brooks - Feb 02, 2003 6:47:18 pm PST #1494 of 9843
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I always think ofAmericans of Irish and Italian descent (the Catholics) and possibly Greek as being very prideful in their heritage because it wasn't so long ago that we had the first Catholic President. And I don't believe we've had an Italian-American president ever. And it certainly wasn't too long ago that they were semi-segragated into neighborhoods. Certainly in my mother's time.


Hil R. - Feb 02, 2003 6:47:55 pm PST #1495 of 9843
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

My school had a whole lot of kids with Irish ancestry. This created problems for the rest of us on St. Patrick's Day, because if we didn't wear green, it was, "Hey! You're dissing our heritage." If we did wear green, it was "You're not Irish! You have no right to that green shirt." (I usually went with something like a white t-shirt, jeans, and leprochaun barettes.)

I think that most people here are aware of their own cultural heritage, and whatever the cultural heritage of their particular section of the country is. There was a dance studio near where I grew up that offered Irish step dancing. When the state started requiring that all elementary school kids learn Spanish, one town nearby protested because they wanted their kids to learn Polish or Italian. In American History class, we learned about all the waves of immigration, and how they shaped the country. I don't really see anyone rejecting their heritage.


Burrell - Feb 02, 2003 6:48:07 pm PST #1496 of 9843
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

the name is not theirs to brand

Yes and no. They certainly have no right to demand payment if someone uses the last name McDonald as a last name. But if my name was Pepsi & I created a new soft drink and wanted to market it under my own name, I'd be SOL.


Zoe Finch - Feb 02, 2003 6:48:11 pm PST #1497 of 9843
Gradh tu fhein

Whole rivers get dyed green, for heaven's sakes!

Crazy Americans!

I do feel better, I guess I was feeling undervalued. I'll pass on your regards to Scotland in general.


billytea - Feb 02, 2003 6:48:54 pm PST #1498 of 9843
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Actually, Zoe, there is a TON of Celtic pride in the US, some ersatz and some not. All up and down the east coast, especially, from Boston to the Appalachians. America is not lacking in acknowledgement of Celtic cultural heritage, even if some of that acknowledgement would probably scare the modern Irish and Scots.

Agreed. As I understand it, for instance, the IRA gets more funding from Irish-Americans than from Irish-Irish (even if adjusted for per capita or per income or such like), and St Patrick's Day is a much bigger event in NYC or Bostin than in Dublin.


Betsy HP - Feb 02, 2003 6:49:04 pm PST #1499 of 9843
If I only had a brain...

This created problems for the rest of us on St. Patrick's Day, because if we didn't wear green, it was, "Hey! You're dissing our heritage."

I tended to wear orange and blue and point out that my family was from Ulster. (True). This being the Midwest, nobody either (A) got the joke or (B) beat me up.


Sophia Brooks - Feb 02, 2003 6:49:48 pm PST #1500 of 9843
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Burrell Pepsi would be an interesting name. and to be completely off topic, I went to school with a Laotian immigrant who had taken Pepsi as his American name. He is a sculptor now, though and not a soft-drink manufacturer.


scrappy - Feb 02, 2003 6:50:21 pm PST #1501 of 9843
Nobody

But I don't think that's an American ting so much as it's a corporate name thing. I am sure if a Scot named Guinness wanted to open a brewery, he would be sued.


Zoe Finch - Feb 02, 2003 6:50:39 pm PST #1502 of 9843
Gradh tu fhein

But if my name was Pepsi & I created a new soft drink and wanted to market it under my own name, I'd be SOL.

Fine, but if Pepsi was the cherished name of one of the most powerful families in the world you'd be up for a fight.