Schools that required a certain social standing to attend, rather than being open to those who have the funds. No sons of wealthly merchants in those schools, for instance...
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CaBil - Jan 11, 2003 6:24:06 pm PST #1280 of 9843
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.
Fay - Jan 11, 2003 6:24:46 pm PST #1281 of 9843
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.
What I'm asking is, what other sort of school was around back then that they had to call places like Eton "public schools" rather than just "schools," and what differentiated them from those others that made "public" the logical choice of term?
The alternative, I have always assumed, was a personal tutor.
Hil R. - Jan 11, 2003 6:26:10 pm PST #1282 of 9843
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l
Oh! That makes sense. Thanks.
Hil R. - Jan 11, 2003 6:28:13 pm PST #1283 of 9843
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l
OK, I did some actual research (well, googling), and Eton's website says:
Until 1902 there were no publicly-supported secondary schools in England. Schools were either privately-owned (by an individual or family) or ‘endowed’ – that is, deriving at least part of their income from an endowment, often in the form of land, and run by some sort of Governing Body. In both cases fees were charged. The endowed schools were known as ‘public schools’ to distinguish them from the ‘private schools’ being run for an individual’s private profit. In that sense Eton has always been a Public School.
Fay - Jan 11, 2003 6:28:20 pm PST #1284 of 9843
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.
Harrow , for example, was founded in 1572. There wasn't a UK-wide Education system at that point, as far as I'm aware, so "public" wouldn't have had any connotations of being open to everyone.
I may be talking out of my arse here, of course. Wouldn't be the first time.
Fiona - Jan 12, 2003 12:22:17 am PST #1285 of 9843
Until 1902 there were no publicly-supported secondary schools in England.
Scotland, by contrast, had a very progressive and inclusive educational policy since the early 19th Century, one of the best in the world. (Which may be one reason why so many important things were invented by Scots.) Took the poor English a while to catch up, as so often....
Yes, in Britain, the opposite of a public school which only a small percentage of the population visit is a state-funded school which is open to everyone. Just another one of our little quirks.
Typo Boy - Jan 12, 2003 10:15:16 am PST #1286 of 9843
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
Public funding of schools in the U.S. in some areas was already in place shortly after the American revolution. It was widespread in the NorthEast by 1840. Public funding of schools was added to those areas of the South that did not have them during the reconstruction; post civil war public funding of schoos was pretty much universal.
Fay - Jan 12, 2003 12:26:39 pm PST #1287 of 9843
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.
Somebody talk me out of reading Ant'n'Dec slash. I've found some. I'm not reading it. But the temptation is sooooooo big and tempting. Argh.
Am? Where are you when I need you, eh?
Fiona - Jan 12, 2003 12:51:04 pm PST #1288 of 9843
Actually, I'm surprised it's taken you that long to find any. Don't they live next door to one another IRL?
Ahem, sorry, Fay. Resist, resist! It can only be terrible.
Theodosia - Jan 12, 2003 12:59:23 pm PST #1289 of 9843
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"
Ant 'n Dec? I should know this.