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Snyder ,'Showtime'


Buffista Fic: It Could Be Plot Bunnies  

Where the Buffistas let their fanfic creative juices flow. May contain erotica.


esse - Aug 30, 2003 4:59:48 pm PDT #6267 of 10001
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

Yeah. It made me nostalgic for earlier seasons.


erikaj - Aug 30, 2003 6:50:42 pm PDT #6268 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

Live journal ate my post. Argh.I exaggerate...it's up there. Just momentary weirdness.


deborah grabien - Aug 30, 2003 7:30:53 pm PDT #6269 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Deena, I haven't edited a word. But yes, the clue was there; the fact that Ethan honestly can't remember any of what "Buffy" is claiming happened.


Am-Chau Yarkona - Aug 30, 2003 10:42:11 pm PDT #6270 of 10001
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

I absolutely LOVE the chemistry experiment exchange between Willow and Lex. That's really brilliant.

Thank you! It felt natural as I was writing it, so I had an idea it was good, but it's nice to have that confirmed. I'm thinking that they might get to bond over chemistry or computers at some later stage.


erikaj - Aug 31, 2003 8:17:39 am PDT #6271 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

I need somebody with some pretty extensive knowledge of "Batman" comic canon to tell me something. How big of a secret was Batman's affair with Catwoman? A real secret? Or the Rock Hudson kind where everybody knows and nobody's talking. It's hard to explain but I need to know for my last scene. And don't be afraid to give me the full geek answer with an issue number and stuff, cause I think it's in character. Thanks.(the things I learn for fanfic.)


DCJensen - Aug 31, 2003 8:34:17 am PDT #6272 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

Holy Whiligigs, Batman! The confusing world of Bat-Canon.


erikaj - Aug 31, 2003 8:37:26 am PDT #6273 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

Thanks, Daniel. I'll look at it in a bit...it's still a little early for that right now. I love the hivemind though.


DCJensen - Aug 31, 2003 8:43:58 am PDT #6274 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

The important passages:

The Jeph Loeb/Tim Sale LONG HALLOWEEN/DARK VICTORY opus wasn't tied to mainstream continuity, allowing them the leeway to kill Year One-era characters (like Lieutenant Flass, who survived into the present in the core series' wedding of Jim Gordon and Sarah Essen) and portray a romantic relationship between Selina Kyle and Bruce Wayne that post-Crisis continuity had prohibited. The revised history had declared that Catwoman had never been captured and that Selina had never met Bruce or Alfred (BATMAN #499 and others). That said, the aforementioned Ed Brubaker has included the Bruce-Selina romance as canon, anyway (in places like BATMAN #600, CATWOMAN (current) #10 and CATWOMAN SECRET FILES #1).

That same issue of SECRET FILES also officially banished a Catwoman story (ACTION COMICS WEEKLY #s 611-614) that has long been regarded as non-canon. The episode had killed off Selina's pal, Holly (alive and well in the current series), but the detail that threw everyone into an uproar was a scene in which Catwoman threw two security guards from a skyscraper window to their deaths in order to frame Holly's killer for the murders. Even setting aside Catwoman's aversion to killing, the sequence didn't make a whole lot of sense.
Batman: Year One indicated that the pre-Catwoman Selina Kyle had been a prostitute, a development that seemed a bit too adult for a character still being marketed to children. Perhaps in acknowledgment of this, DC has shied away from that characterization since Zero Hour. 1994's CATWOMAN #0, for instance, established that the young Selina had become wealthy as a cat burglar and that the hooker persona had been a subsequent ruse to separate potential customers from their cash the moment they were alone.


erikaj - Aug 31, 2003 8:55:09 am PDT #6275 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

That's great...I made a note. But I also need a little bit of a primer or "Cliff's notes" or something, cause I haven't read a comic in fifteen years. (Y'all are gonna throw me a telethon now, right?) It doesn't seem possible.


Am-Chau Yarkona - Aug 31, 2003 9:51:15 am PDT #6276 of 10001
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

Good heavens. And I thought Firefly was a fandom with complex canon issues.