Ah. Willow's are more of a true hazel, Buffy's are more of that "gets-lumped-in-with-hazel" shade. Which is a hard shade to explain.

Deb, I really enjoyed that. I've found that very few original characters work for me, but Amanda is very compelling. I'd like to read more about her.

Insent to Am and SA and Trudy. SA, I didn't know which address was valid, so I sent it to both that I have... Which those are I do not recall.

I have a blue-eyed Nicholas. I had another Nicholas a long time ago, with chocolate melty brown eyes that took up half his face. I like both.

I took any reference to eye colour out of there (Pensioner).

Steph, I was given all the guidelines for writing Buffyfic and Angelfic from the publishers, but one of the main reasons I declined (other than a complete non-grasp of most of the slang and pop culture references that might be used) was my total incapabaility when it comes to drafting reality-clothes to fit someone else's characters. I like doing originals to interact with the existing.

I wish I didn't suck at porn. That would be damned fun to write, Buffyporn. Ahhhhhh, Giles and Ethan and early Angel-on-the-edge, oh my.

The porn comes with practice!

Honest to dog! Well, you know, assuming that them what have said that my stuff's okay aren't lying to me, practice does seem to help.

I suspect my crapitude at porn is because I want to go for the elegant and understated. Which works ok for the real-world fiction I get (occasionally) paid to write, but for porn? I think not so much with the elegant understatement.

I don't know. Understated and elegant is, well, erotica.

I tend to do a lot of understated sex writing. I'm not sure how erotic any of it is, because I'm the one writing it, of course. (Or, like right now, failing to write it.)

Well, on this thread, we toss around the term "porn" pretty broadly -- some of the hottest, most erotic things I've read (from the Bitchficcers here) haven't been porn in its grittiest, most common sense of the term, but have actually been understated.

Don't let our love of porn fool you. It's not all the literary equivalent of pizza-delivery-guy and the boom visible in the shot.

t edit x-posty with Plei. Not surprising.

When I wrote the big long fic that had some Spike/Willow, I think the sex bits were understated.

I suspect my crapitude at porn is because I want to go for the elegant and understated. Which works ok for the real-world fiction I get (occasionally) paid to write, but for porn? I think not so much with the elegant understatement.

Wrod.

This is about the most successfully porny I've written. There's really only so far you can go (when you're not as talented as the lovely mme. Marcontell).

Oh, I'm not dissing erotica - I can write passable erotica.

but I love love love LOVE good old-fashioned thigh-quivering porn, and no matter how hard I try, it always comes out understated. Feh. I want throbbing members! Nipples! I want a long loving description of a woody, damnit!

One of the reasons I'm lurving Angelus' diaglogue the last two episodes is that the writers are walking the fine line between violent porn and pure erotica. A lot being suggested, and the occasional graphic bit all the more effective when it hits.