Willow: Something evil-crashed to earth in this. Then it broke out and slithered away to do badness.
Giles: Well, in all fairness, we don't really know about the "slithered" part. Anya: No, no, I'm sure it frisked about like a fluffy lamb.
'Never Leave Me'
The Crying of Natter 49
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Tom Scola - Jan 10, 2007 3:54:54 am PST #1628 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.
flea - Jan 10, 2007 4:04:19 am PST #1629 of 10001
information libertarian
Yes, you're all right about the citizenship. I meant being born a foreign citizen, not simply being born overseas. (Which rules out Schwarzenegger, yay!)
Topic!Cindy - Jan 10, 2007 4:05:27 am PST #1630 of 10001
What is even happening?
Yeah, but did he have any military experience @@...@@...@@...
flea - Jan 10, 2007 4:12:15 am PST #1631 of 10001
information libertarian
Mallory, however: can be president. Just not for a couple of years.
Kat - Jan 10, 2007 4:15:12 am PST #1632 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo
Okay, but next weird question... outside of the original set of presidents who were all both foreign citizens at birth, has there ever been a foriegn born president?
I'm trying to recall ANYTHING from high school civics. But that was almost half of my lifetime ago and I can't remember shit.
Topic!Cindy - Jan 10, 2007 4:23:27 am PST #1633 of 10001
What is even happening?
This article at Wikipedia notes:
There is currently debate concerning the definition of natural born citizen. The main focus of this debate is whether or not children born to Americans overseas be considered eligible for the Presidency. Several main candidates have sought the office who were born outside the United States (e.g., George Romney was born in Mexico to U.S. parents, Barry Goldwater was born in Arizona while it was still a U.S. territory, and John McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone to U.S. parents). Barry Goldwater's case among these three is unique in two ways, first, although he was not born in any state, he was born on US soil, as the Arizona territory was an incorporated territory, and second, Arizona was later admitted as a state. These candidates were not elected, so the issue was never fully addressed.
It seems it probably has not been the case with anyone who has actually won the office (since the first few presidents, that is).
Fred Pete - Jan 10, 2007 4:25:27 am PST #1634 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.
I'm not sure if this counts, Kat, but I remember hearing some questions about where Andrew Jackson was born. Officially, he was born in NC, but I seem to remember reading somewhere that he may have been born on board a ship while his mother was crossing the Atlantic.
Kat - Jan 10, 2007 4:30:08 am PST #1635 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo
So if John McCain were elected then, he would have been born overseas, but still in American territory as the Panama Canal Zone was controlled by the US.
I should pursue this. Then suddenly I remember, I should clean the house, finish watching the Alias DVD, mail things, sort yarn, file, watcch last night's House episode and take a nap too.
Hmmm... what to do?
Cass - Jan 10, 2007 4:44:01 am PST #1636 of 10001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
I should pursue this. Then suddenly I remember, I should clean the house, finish watching the Alias DVD, mail things, sort yarn, file, watcch last night's House episode and take a nap too.Take the nap.
Also? Come to Portland, but not today. It's really cold out there.
I'm trying to recall ANYTHING from high school civics. But that was almost half of my lifetime ago and I can't remember shit.All I am recalling is that my AP notes looked like protoslash. Because I babbled incessantly about these two dudes, Jeff and John. It was easier than Jefferson and Jackson. And I have no idea why I bastardized Jackson into John, but clearly my notes show I did. Maybe I felt Jack was too familiar and wanted to keep things a little more formal.
Jessica - Jan 10, 2007 4:57:32 am PST #1637 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Pregnancy mini-meara:
I've been keeping my hair blue with Special Effects and no bleach, figuring that if 90% of the don't-do-X-it-will-kill-your-baby sites out there are saying things like "...so many women just get highlights instead!" a little semipermanent dye will be just fine.
My caffeine source has been downgraded from 2 cups of coffee in the morning to 1 cup of Earl Grey, but now that the smell of coffee no longer makes me want to hurl I've been drinking decaf lattes in the afternoon.
But MOST IMPORTANTLY, IT IS SNOWING! YAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!!