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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
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tommyrot, the dogs in training who will be companion dogs of some kind often wear a vest, but I like to think of it as a cape. Then they are more super dogs then dogs-in-training.
flea, couldn't a foreign-born person of two US citizens still be president? Which is not to say that the caller isn't stupid, but just curious.
Not flea, but
U.S. Constitution, Article II, Section 1, Paragraph 5:
No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
Seems to say that you just have to be born a citizen. Location of birth not an issue.
Yes, you're all right about the citizenship. I meant being born a foreign citizen, not simply being born overseas. (Which rules out Schwarzenegger, yay!)
Yeah, but did he have any military experience @@...@@...@@...
Mallory, however: can be president. Just not for a couple of years.
Okay, but next weird question... outside of the original set of presidents who were all both foreign citizens at birth, has there ever been a foriegn born president?
I'm trying to recall ANYTHING from high school civics. But that was almost half of my lifetime ago and I can't remember shit.
This article at Wikipedia notes:
There is currently debate concerning the definition of natural born citizen. The main focus of this debate is whether or not children born to Americans overseas be considered eligible for the Presidency. Several main candidates have sought the office who were born outside the United States (e.g., George Romney was born in Mexico to U.S. parents, Barry Goldwater was born in Arizona while it was still a U.S. territory, and John McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone to U.S. parents). Barry Goldwater's case among these three is unique in two ways, first, although he was not born in any state, he was born on US soil, as the Arizona territory was an incorporated territory, and second, Arizona was later admitted as a state. These candidates were not elected, so the issue was never fully addressed.
It seems it probably has not been the case with anyone who has actually won the office (since the first few presidents, that is).
I'm not sure if this counts, Kat, but I remember hearing some questions about where Andrew Jackson was born. Officially, he was born in NC, but I seem to remember reading somewhere that he may have been born on board a ship while his mother was crossing the Atlantic.
So if John McCain were elected then, he would have been born overseas, but still in American territory as the Panama Canal Zone was controlled by the US.
I should pursue this. Then suddenly I remember, I should clean the house, finish watching the Alias DVD, mail things, sort yarn, file, watcch last night's House episode and take a nap too.
Hmmm... what to do?