What annoyances, Ailleann? My PC install of Eudora is handling even more accounts, and I have a shitload of filtering--that migration is going to take me having fallen in a lot of love to move.

I also have some mailboxes saved from some really early installs of Eudora (I moved there from Pegasus Mail, which...wow, I wonder if that's still around), and I open them from time to time out of nostalgia.

I have a data packrat problem.

eta: Well, there's my first irritation with Thunderbird. It's not offering to import any of my settings, etc from the default mail client. It's the OS's default mail client! Grr.

I have a data packrat problem.

Ohhh, this is so me. Mine are really tiny things... I'm using it for one account, that doesn't get a lot of traffic anymore, so I don't have filters or anything. The mailboxes converted well, but the address book looked a little wonky when I attempted to convert. It may require a little manual conversion. My biggest thing is how quickly it qualifies a message as "read," and how when reading it automatically moves to the next message and marks it read before I even grok who it's from. Tiny, but incredibly annoying.

Actually, all things considered, if I could have I probably would have stayed with Eudora. I just didn't want to go through all the futzing that was cropping up when I switched machines, for an email that I'll probably phase out in the next six months.

Okay, I'm thinking Thunderbird for OS X will be a non-starter for me.

No option to import standard Mail data was bad enough, but it doesn't look like it's tied to OS X's address book. I am so not maintaining another address book on this computer--the OS X one is updated from my PDA (and therefore from my PC) whenever I synch up.

I do wish my PC email app used the Palm address book. That'd rock.

Am I blanching and turning away from Thunderbird too early? Is there address book synchronisation (not import) somewhere I'm missing it.

Unrelatedly: Is there a way in Firefox to type in a URL and not have it saved in the list under the location bar?

Part of me thinks I should get off of Eudora on the PC

I read somewhere that Eudora is soon going to be open sourcified, it that makes any difference.

Is there a way in Firefox to type in a URL and not have it saved in the list under the location bar?

Under privacy options, you can set a time of how long to save data like that to 0 days. Or you can delete them manually by opening the dropdown in the URL box, and hitting [shift][delete] for the ones you want to get rid of.

[shift][delete]. Cool. I tried a couple different things including help and googling and didn't come up with much. I just want to be able to use some of the computers at krav without being stalked to my feeding grounds. Well, the network admin already knows many of the places I live, so I don't think he'd follow. Have to keep the others at bay.

I read somewhere that Eudora is soon going to be open sourcified, it that makes any difference.

That certainly makes it interesting. Eudora does do many of the things I need, and I'm certainly very familiar with it. I'm made curious about migration because of how solidly people stand behind Thunderbird--and from looking at the options of the OS X version of Thunderbird, at least I can import from Eudora.

(I moved there from Pegasus Mail, which...wow, I wonder if that's still around)

Hee. My mom still uses this. I moved on years ago, but she still loves Pegasus and refuses to leave, even though she's otherwise technologically saavy and current.

I tried switching from Eudora to Thunderbird a year or two ago(?). The conversion went pretty smoothly, but I quickly moved back when I discovered that Thunderbird didn\'t let me remove messages from the server on a message by message basis (ita\'s complaint on the OSX mail client).

I discovered that Thunderbird didn't let me remove messages from the server on a message by message basis

Ding! This is why I love you guys. I'm never first at anything. I'll put off my exploration for now.

I just got the bee in my bonnet because I realised I'd sent out a job hunt email (from one of my gmail addresses) with my velvetedge signature. Not slick at all--the randomly selected quote was okay, but "Putting the 'freak' into 'control freak' since 1995" is not something I want out there.

Maybe that's why he hasn't called back.

Another reason I'd thought of it was because I recently installed Growl in order to get the Skype integration where it brings up a shaded box telling me who's just gone on or offline without taking the focus away from what I'm doing. More meaningful than a beep or a bouncing dock icon. Hey, look! My father just came online.

Anyway, I was looking to see what else it integrated with, and noticed that there were a bunch of OS X mail clients out there I hadn't heard of, which naturally leads me to Wolmer¹. And therefore ask around.

¹: To equivocate on decisions because of a fear that someone's having more fun somewhere else. Named after K Wolmer who could never commit to going out plans in case she didn't pick the funnest.

No option to import standard Mail data was bad enough, but it doesn't look like it's tied to OS X's address book.

It looks like this is a known issue and they're working on it. [link]

My guess is it'll be in Thunderbird 2.0.

I use Entourage (Outlook for Mac), but it's not free so that's a strike against it. I think it will allow you to delete messages from the server on an individual basis, but I don't have it in front of me right now.